Another Agency to Watch? Re: Dodgy Agencies.
Tue, 25 Sept 2007, 09:46 amLabrug35 posts in thread
Another Agency to Watch? Re: Dodgy Agencies.
Tue, 25 Sept 2007, 09:46 amThis was mailled to me although I believe the person actually meant to post a forum article instead. I repost here;
Subject: Dodgy Agencies
Date: Tue, 25/09/2007 - 07:13
Since were all discussing the topic of dodgy agenciesi. Brisbane is just as bad. I am with NATALIE HALL AGENCY. Supposedly they are the best, yet im really starting to wonder if they are, they send you out on jobs (no problem) but they take LOOOOOOOOOOONG to pay up to 6 MONTHS!! their main excuse is that the production companies they are dealing with have not paid them. I have been advised by MEAA that this is often an excuse to stretch payment. I often see other Natalie Hall Members when out on jobs and they often complain of the same thing. They demand you to be at the job pronto but yet when it comes to paying you, they all of a sudden dont want to know you. They dont charge you an upfront fee but the they take 20 percent commission plus ADMINISTRATION FEES! plus less tax ON EVERY JOB, so by the time you work it out its often not worth doing. Another thing this agency does is give different people different rates of payment. We all do the same job yet some people get paid less and others get paid more. They often change their rates of payment, i hear from other members that they do this if they think you are desperate to be on anything, they suss you out. Sometimes its $20 an hour sometimes its $40 an hour. I find them to be very tricky. Does anybody else have this problem? If so let me know on this forum.
My question is
1. Is this normal practice for Agencies?
2. How long does it take for Payment?
3. Do Production Companies REALLY delay paying Agencies hence they cannot pay you up to 6months?
4. What is the normal rate for extras work, feature work etc.?
Take Care Everyone!
she74
Thank you She74. Most agencies that I know of, try to do the best for their clients (you). Production companies do sometimes "stretch" things out. Sometimes their reasons are legit, sometimes not. Sometimes Agencies tend to drag things out also. The commission is to PAY for the administrative costs. I personally question this as an additional cost.
If this is a regular occurance, then I would tend to think that the agency itself is dragging their heels. If there are others that you know of making the same complaint, then maybe you should band together. If you are members of the MEAA, then as a group, you may be able to bring industrial action against the agency or production company. I would suggest getting further advice from them. They can only help you if you are members though.
Final option, if you are completely unhappy with you select agency, fire then. Get you money out of them and fine someone else. Remember, you are hiring the agency to find work for you.
As for what is the rates, check here - select the most appropriate area and read the PDF. This will give you minimum industry rates.
All the best - Jeff.
Concord
Wed, 10 Oct 2007, 09:07 amNeville and Logos, what can I say. I agree with your arguments. It should not take so long. The sad thing is, is that our prefered industry is far to vague and ambiguous, and that is a seriously slanted advantage for the production companies who can claim all sorts of nonsense and reasons for delayed payments.
It is simply another reason to strongly consider joining the Equity Union and help bolster the strength of that organisation that they may then be able to "do something." As has been demonstrated time and time again, a united front can make large waves.
The problem is that so many people, young, hopeful, stars in their eyes, completely inexperienced in the way the industry works, can and do get taken for a ride as such. While there are so many "hopefuls", then the industry can afford to play hard-ball with the struggling talent.
One thing I can definately credit the ITA Forum for is as another medium (and a powerful one at that if not THE most powerful in Aus) for developing the understanding and experience needed for all performers to be able to make valued judgements in their careers. We can only but continue to guide those less experienced towards making smarter choices, and creating a stronger united front.
The results of the current forum are a little concerning considering the number of people who would not consider Union Membership. Without strong representation in such a volatile industry, you are vulnerable. I am not a union member for my full-time job as a public servant mainly because there is little need for me to be so. The Union has a strong and well established workforce behind them. The MEAA/Equity works in a completely different world and they need your support as much as you need theirs.
These are simply my personal thoughts. While I am not a representative of the MEAA/Equity, you could be forgiven for thinking so.
Absit invidia
Jeff Watkins
Perth based Actor/Performer
Fight/Sword Choreographer
Virgin Director