Another Agency to Watch? Re: Dodgy Agencies.
Tue, 25 Sept 2007, 09:46 amLabrug35 posts in thread
Another Agency to Watch? Re: Dodgy Agencies.
Tue, 25 Sept 2007, 09:46 amThis was mailled to me although I believe the person actually meant to post a forum article instead. I repost here;
Subject: Dodgy Agencies
Date: Tue, 25/09/2007 - 07:13
Since were all discussing the topic of dodgy agenciesi. Brisbane is just as bad. I am with NATALIE HALL AGENCY. Supposedly they are the best, yet im really starting to wonder if they are, they send you out on jobs (no problem) but they take LOOOOOOOOOOONG to pay up to 6 MONTHS!! their main excuse is that the production companies they are dealing with have not paid them. I have been advised by MEAA that this is often an excuse to stretch payment. I often see other Natalie Hall Members when out on jobs and they often complain of the same thing. They demand you to be at the job pronto but yet when it comes to paying you, they all of a sudden dont want to know you. They dont charge you an upfront fee but the they take 20 percent commission plus ADMINISTRATION FEES! plus less tax ON EVERY JOB, so by the time you work it out its often not worth doing. Another thing this agency does is give different people different rates of payment. We all do the same job yet some people get paid less and others get paid more. They often change their rates of payment, i hear from other members that they do this if they think you are desperate to be on anything, they suss you out. Sometimes its $20 an hour sometimes its $40 an hour. I find them to be very tricky. Does anybody else have this problem? If so let me know on this forum.
My question is
1. Is this normal practice for Agencies?
2. How long does it take for Payment?
3. Do Production Companies REALLY delay paying Agencies hence they cannot pay you up to 6months?
4. What is the normal rate for extras work, feature work etc.?
Take Care Everyone!
she74
Thank you She74. Most agencies that I know of, try to do the best for their clients (you). Production companies do sometimes "stretch" things out. Sometimes their reasons are legit, sometimes not. Sometimes Agencies tend to drag things out also. The commission is to PAY for the administrative costs. I personally question this as an additional cost.
If this is a regular occurance, then I would tend to think that the agency itself is dragging their heels. If there are others that you know of making the same complaint, then maybe you should band together. If you are members of the MEAA, then as a group, you may be able to bring industrial action against the agency or production company. I would suggest getting further advice from them. They can only help you if you are members though.
Final option, if you are completely unhappy with you select agency, fire then. Get you money out of them and fine someone else. Remember, you are hiring the agency to find work for you.
As for what is the rates, check here - select the most appropriate area and read the PDF. This will give you minimum industry rates.
All the best - Jeff.
Research
Tue, 25 Sept 2007, 11:03 amI have done a little research (what little I can from here) and have seen enough to make me think that NATALIE HALL AGENCY is more legit than many others. They do not appear to charge upfront fees, they do not force you into using a nominated photographer, they take commission charges that while at the top end of the scale, are within reasonable expectation.
The lag time in payment is a concern, but as suggested this could be Producer based, not agent. The rates are also a concern yet often these are dictated by the Production Company, not the agent.
Overall, I would say at this point that NATALIE HALL AGENCY is on the whole OK. Personally, I would like to hear other first hand accounts.
At the end of the day, an agent is not their job to do everything for you. They may offer you jobs that pay below standard because that is what is on offer, and it is up to you to say Yes or no. Be aware of your rights, research the MEAA, join the union, develop a contacts network with fellow actors and industry members, and be more selective in the work you do.
If you have issues with anything NATALIE HALL AGENCY does, then I would bring it up with them initially in a reasonable and professional manner. There maybe legitimate reasons after all. If you are not satisfied, then the MEAA.
Absit invidia
Jeff Watkins
Perth based Actor/Performer
Fight/Sword Choreographer
Virgin Director