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Another Agency to Watch? Re: Dodgy Agencies.

Tue, 25 Sept 2007, 09:46 am
Labrug35 posts in thread

This was mailled to me although I believe the person actually meant to post a forum article instead. I repost here;

Subject: Dodgy Agencies
Date: Tue, 25/09/2007 - 07:13

Since were all discussing the topic of dodgy agenciesi. Brisbane is just as bad. I am with NATALIE HALL AGENCY. Supposedly they are the best, yet im really starting to wonder if they are, they send you out on jobs (no problem) but they take LOOOOOOOOOOONG to pay up to 6 MONTHS!! their main excuse is that the production companies they are dealing with have not paid them. I have been advised by MEAA that this is often an excuse to stretch payment. I often see other Natalie Hall Members when out on jobs and they often complain of the same thing. They demand you to be at the job pronto but yet when it comes to paying you, they all of a sudden dont want to know you. They dont charge you an upfront fee but the they take 20 percent commission plus ADMINISTRATION FEES! plus less tax ON EVERY JOB, so by the time you work it out its often not worth doing. Another thing this agency does is give different people different rates of payment. We all do the same job yet some people get paid less and others get paid more. They often change their rates of payment, i hear from other members that they do this if they think you are desperate to be on anything, they suss you out. Sometimes its $20 an hour sometimes its $40 an hour. I find them to be very tricky. Does anybody else have this problem? If so let me know on this forum.

My question is

1. Is this normal practice for Agencies?
2. How long does it take for Payment?
3. Do Production Companies REALLY delay paying Agencies hence they cannot pay you up to 6months?
4. What is the normal rate for extras work, feature work etc.?

Take Care Everyone!
she74

Thank you She74. Most agencies that I know of, try to do the best for their clients (you). Production companies do sometimes "stretch" things out. Sometimes their reasons are legit, sometimes not. Sometimes Agencies tend to drag things out also. The commission is to PAY for the administrative costs. I personally question this as an additional cost.

If this is a regular occurance, then I would tend to think that the agency itself is dragging their heels. If there are others that you know of making the same complaint, then maybe you should band together. If you are members of the MEAA, then as a group, you may be able to bring industrial action against the agency or production company. I would suggest getting further advice from them. They can only help you if you are members though.

Final option, if you are completely unhappy with you select agency, fire then. Get you money out of them and fine someone else. Remember, you are hiring the agency to find work for you.

As for what is the rates, check here - select the most appropriate area and read the PDF. This will give you minimum industry rates.

All the best - Jeff.

Natalie Hall Management

Thu, 4 Oct 2007, 04:14 pm
Walter Plinge
Just in regards to she74's email I wanted to give another first hand account of Natalie Hall Management. I personally have been with the agency for 8 years. I totally hear you in regards to payment taking a while but I can assure you that it is a result of not only the production companies but also the advertising companies and the above the line creative companies. It is a whole streamline efeect that unfortunately we are on the end of. In saying that though if the pay is done quick then you will get the money quickly. Natalie does pay runs fortnightly so if it comes in quick you'll be paid quick. I'm not sure how long you've been with Nat or how much work you've done but the more you do the more you'll see. In regards to taking 20% plus tax and admin fees; 20% is only taken on adds. TV and film is 10%. Tax has always been taken out of everyone of my pays and trust me, when you start earning big money you'll be glad because you don't want to get a massive bill!! On the whole I gotta say I would never be with any other agent. I've come from starting out doing the extra work for $20 an hour and have slowly moved my way up to being able to make a living out of solely acting. I've just finished an Australian feature and from there have started to get recognised from Syd and Melb casting agents for main roles in both TV and film. I can honestly say that if it wasn't for Natalie I wouldn't be where I am today. She has guided me through the minefield that is this industry and been the driving force behind my career to date. I can only hope as I look to move to the US that she will come with me as it is very hard to find tructworthy people in this indusrty, let alone people who care about you and what you do. I realise its hard starting out and there are some shit gigs but this is the industry. It gets harder and harder and unless you are lucky enough to have someone like Natalie on your side, as I have, the chances of making it are slim. If you aren't happy I suggest just talking to her. She is brutally honest (its kept my eating habbits in check) but this is what we need. If you aren'y happy i do think you should go somehwere else but make sure you are comfortable with that agency and make sure you can trust them.

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