Omnibus Morals
Tue, 19 Oct 1999, 09:25 amWalter Plinge19 posts in thread
Omnibus Morals
Tue, 19 Oct 1999, 09:25 amHello Grant,
Yes I can certainly see your point regards the issues of morals etc. As for a flawed analogy...perphaps but then it did work for Picasso :-)Again I say to you though..have you asked to see Omnibus books recently. Perhaps you may be surprised and perhaps they may show you. It appears you may have asked a few years ago, maybe someone should ask again and then the rights or wrongs of the issue can be further discussed.
I must thank you Grant for the opportunity that allows people to have their say in a non threatening and informative site such us this
Yes I can certainly see your point regards the issues of morals etc. As for a flawed analogy...perphaps but then it did work for Picasso :-)Again I say to you though..have you asked to see Omnibus books recently. Perhaps you may be surprised and perhaps they may show you. It appears you may have asked a few years ago, maybe someone should ask again and then the rights or wrongs of the issue can be further discussed.
I must thank you Grant for the opportunity that allows people to have their say in a non threatening and informative site such us this
Morality v. Legality
Thu, 21 Oct 1999, 02:17 pmHi Carol>>> Operating, may i add, in a totally legal manner.
>>
>> Why do i feel that when people resort to this argument it is
>> often to excuse activity that is otherwise reprehensible?
>>
>> "the law ... is an ass"
>
> Interesting comment. Unfortunately it is reductico ad absurdium.
> Like it or not companies and individuals must work within the legal
> frame work of our state. Right or wrong that is the way it is.An interesting parallel is playing itself out in the media. Did you see the comments (reported p.1 today's West) by Julian Burnside QC, that while John Laws and Alan Jones had been "paid big amounts to push the cause of certain companies", they "had not broken the law"?Yet the ABA, and i daresay a fair portion of the population, regard the matter worthy of a formal inquiry.If we extended your line of argument, wouldn't we ditch the ABA inquiry and say there is no point, because Laws' and Jones' have done nothing "illegal"? What is the point of the inquiry if legal proceedings are not going to eventuate?If there is a purpose in holding such an inquiry, then similar reasons are likely to hold for informally debating the actions of the Omnibus partnership.*snip*> It must be remembered that actors
> are not forced to volunteer it is a freedom of choice and they have
> chosen that path.Perhaps this informal debate has an educative role to play? The actors' choice is not truly "free" unless it is informed. Many of them were possibly not aware precisely how Omnibus operated and how it differed significantly from practically all the other local theatre companies - or even that so many other companies existed!> If companies like Omnibus did not exist would these
> actors still be given the same opportunity to practice their craft
> and if so where and by whom?Absolutely!! There are seventy community theatre companies across Western Australia - nearly thirty in the metro area alone - producing literally hundreds of shows of all genres throughout the year. Many of them produce work as good and (dare i suggest it!) much better than that done by Omnibus. This website is intended as an information storage and clearing house for those companies, you can find out the "where and by whom" here.But most importantly: no-one, apart from the business partners, in Omnibus has any real say in what happens. If they don't like your ideas, there is nothing you can do, but leave. That's not much of an opportunity! On the other hand, if you become involved in an incorporated, community theatre, you have a say in what the company does and when, where, how it does it.> As I have pointed out before I have worked
> on 9 of the Omnibus productions without pay. I am also employed by
> professional theatre (when time allows)and I do have the relevent
> qualifications. Crazy, yes I possibly am but through Omnibus I have
> been given an opportunity to practice my craft and develop it.I hope you're not doing someone else's private gardening?Did you know that there are lots of beautiful, community-owned and managed parks and gardens where you would be valued and welcomed?*snip*> PS Grant it is a lovely day...would you like to do some weedingI do some of my gardening on the internet. Occasionally i spread manure in my little patch and it stinks for a while, but it's lovely to see all the flowers come up later ;)Cheers
Grant
>>
>> Why do i feel that when people resort to this argument it is
>> often to excuse activity that is otherwise reprehensible?
>>
>> "the law ... is an ass"
>
> Interesting comment. Unfortunately it is reductico ad absurdium.
> Like it or not companies and individuals must work within the legal
> frame work of our state. Right or wrong that is the way it is.An interesting parallel is playing itself out in the media. Did you see the comments (reported p.1 today's West) by Julian Burnside QC, that while John Laws and Alan Jones had been "paid big amounts to push the cause of certain companies", they "had not broken the law"?Yet the ABA, and i daresay a fair portion of the population, regard the matter worthy of a formal inquiry.If we extended your line of argument, wouldn't we ditch the ABA inquiry and say there is no point, because Laws' and Jones' have done nothing "illegal"? What is the point of the inquiry if legal proceedings are not going to eventuate?If there is a purpose in holding such an inquiry, then similar reasons are likely to hold for informally debating the actions of the Omnibus partnership.*snip*> It must be remembered that actors
> are not forced to volunteer it is a freedom of choice and they have
> chosen that path.Perhaps this informal debate has an educative role to play? The actors' choice is not truly "free" unless it is informed. Many of them were possibly not aware precisely how Omnibus operated and how it differed significantly from practically all the other local theatre companies - or even that so many other companies existed!> If companies like Omnibus did not exist would these
> actors still be given the same opportunity to practice their craft
> and if so where and by whom?Absolutely!! There are seventy community theatre companies across Western Australia - nearly thirty in the metro area alone - producing literally hundreds of shows of all genres throughout the year. Many of them produce work as good and (dare i suggest it!) much better than that done by Omnibus. This website is intended as an information storage and clearing house for those companies, you can find out the "where and by whom" here.But most importantly: no-one, apart from the business partners, in Omnibus has any real say in what happens. If they don't like your ideas, there is nothing you can do, but leave. That's not much of an opportunity! On the other hand, if you become involved in an incorporated, community theatre, you have a say in what the company does and when, where, how it does it.> As I have pointed out before I have worked
> on 9 of the Omnibus productions without pay. I am also employed by
> professional theatre (when time allows)and I do have the relevent
> qualifications. Crazy, yes I possibly am but through Omnibus I have
> been given an opportunity to practice my craft and develop it.I hope you're not doing someone else's private gardening?Did you know that there are lots of beautiful, community-owned and managed parks and gardens where you would be valued and welcomed?*snip*> PS Grant it is a lovely day...would you like to do some weedingI do some of my gardening on the internet. Occasionally i spread manure in my little patch and it stinks for a while, but it's lovely to see all the flowers come up later ;)Cheers
Grant
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