ideas and suggestions
Wed, 7 Apr 2004, 08:14 pmryno7 posts in thread
ideas and suggestions
Wed, 7 Apr 2004, 08:14 pmI've got some questions about the rig I'm planning to use as LD of a small budget musical. It will be performed in a community hall. The stage is about 6x7x5, raised 1m off the ground, and the two FOH lighting bars angled into the stage are on the ceiling and about 5m out, one on prompt and one on O/P. I can't use our pushup stands as they don't achieve enough angle to stop washing out the cyc.
1. Would a pattern 23 be of considerably less intensity than an acclaim 650w PC? And would using 2 PC's across the front of stage at a 5m throw illuminate adequately? (I have no central FOH rigging position so I'll split the stage in two, and using 4 PC's across FOH will increase costs since I have two major lighting states gelled up differently).
2. I have to use 4 pairs of 110v par 64's somewhere as we are at a premium with lights to hire. I'm thinking of using them (at 50%) above stage as a general wash, however I'll need to diffuse them. How can I control the spill though? I'd rather use them on-stage rather than FOH since the spill looks worse when seen all over the proscenium rather than all over the stage.
Any opinions, suggestions?
Thanks,
Ryan Alexander
1. Would a pattern 23 be of considerably less intensity than an acclaim 650w PC? And would using 2 PC's across the front of stage at a 5m throw illuminate adequately? (I have no central FOH rigging position so I'll split the stage in two, and using 4 PC's across FOH will increase costs since I have two major lighting states gelled up differently).
2. I have to use 4 pairs of 110v par 64's somewhere as we are at a premium with lights to hire. I'm thinking of using them (at 50%) above stage as a general wash, however I'll need to diffuse them. How can I control the spill though? I'd rather use them on-stage rather than FOH since the spill looks worse when seen all over the proscenium rather than all over the stage.
Any opinions, suggestions?
Thanks,
Ryan Alexander
Re: ideas and suggestions
Sat, 10 Apr 2004, 12:24 amWalter Plinge
Hello Ryan
You need to plan this on paper first to see what suits where.
The 650 watt pc will be more usefull than a Patt23 as the Patt23 has a narrower beam width. As the Patt23 has a narrower beam width it is brighter.
The Par64 was designed as a long throw narrow beam lamp so is not suitable on stage for a drama application. There are different beam sizes from Very Narrow Spot to Wide Flood. You can increase the beam width by using a frost gel or a spun silk but it will introduce spill. You can control the spill a bit bu using barn doors or making a "snoot" or tube at the front of the Par64 can.If you use long nose Par cans they will restrict the maximum beam width you can get from the lamp.
As a general suggestion, use the four pairs of Par 64 FOH as a two colour wash, two pairs on each side. If you are using heavily saturated gels for the musical you will lose a lot of light in the gels which is why Par64's became so popular for concert lighting.
On a very cheap budget use the PC's for dialogue and floods with colours for the stage bars.
Hope this helps.
Don
You need to plan this on paper first to see what suits where.
The 650 watt pc will be more usefull than a Patt23 as the Patt23 has a narrower beam width. As the Patt23 has a narrower beam width it is brighter.
The Par64 was designed as a long throw narrow beam lamp so is not suitable on stage for a drama application. There are different beam sizes from Very Narrow Spot to Wide Flood. You can increase the beam width by using a frost gel or a spun silk but it will introduce spill. You can control the spill a bit bu using barn doors or making a "snoot" or tube at the front of the Par64 can.If you use long nose Par cans they will restrict the maximum beam width you can get from the lamp.
As a general suggestion, use the four pairs of Par 64 FOH as a two colour wash, two pairs on each side. If you are using heavily saturated gels for the musical you will lose a lot of light in the gels which is why Par64's became so popular for concert lighting.
On a very cheap budget use the PC's for dialogue and floods with colours for the stage bars.
Hope this helps.
Don