Hanging Harness Required!!!!
Mon, 23 Oct 2000, 08:22 pmHarbour8 posts in thread
Hanging Harness Required!!!!
Mon, 23 Oct 2000, 08:22 pmHELP!!!
Without giving away too much of the plot, Harbour Theatre is looking for a way of 'hanging' an actor on stage, without actually hanging him in real life (is this what is meant by character assassination?). Does anyone have any suggestions how this can be done?
We've thought of a harness to suspend him, but don't have one. Does anyone know where we can get/hire one, or know of an easier and cheaper way to hang someone. Any suggestions would be gratefully appreciated. In fact, you can call me direct on 9335 5917 (during civilised hours please) or email if you prefer to remain anonymous. Thanks.
Rob
Without giving away too much of the plot, Harbour Theatre is looking for a way of 'hanging' an actor on stage, without actually hanging him in real life (is this what is meant by character assassination?). Does anyone have any suggestions how this can be done?
We've thought of a harness to suspend him, but don't have one. Does anyone know where we can get/hire one, or know of an easier and cheaper way to hang someone. Any suggestions would be gratefully appreciated. In fact, you can call me direct on 9335 5917 (during civilised hours please) or email if you prefer to remain anonymous. Thanks.
Rob
HarbourMon, 23 Oct 2000, 08:22 pm
HELP!!!
Without giving away too much of the plot, Harbour Theatre is looking for a way of 'hanging' an actor on stage, without actually hanging him in real life (is this what is meant by character assassination?). Does anyone have any suggestions how this can be done?
We've thought of a harness to suspend him, but don't have one. Does anyone know where we can get/hire one, or know of an easier and cheaper way to hang someone. Any suggestions would be gratefully appreciated. In fact, you can call me direct on 9335 5917 (during civilised hours please) or email if you prefer to remain anonymous. Thanks.
Rob
Without giving away too much of the plot, Harbour Theatre is looking for a way of 'hanging' an actor on stage, without actually hanging him in real life (is this what is meant by character assassination?). Does anyone have any suggestions how this can be done?
We've thought of a harness to suspend him, but don't have one. Does anyone know where we can get/hire one, or know of an easier and cheaper way to hang someone. Any suggestions would be gratefully appreciated. In fact, you can call me direct on 9335 5917 (during civilised hours please) or email if you prefer to remain anonymous. Thanks.
Rob
KimberleyMon, 23 Oct 2000, 11:06 pm
RE: Hanging Harness Required!!!!
Belmont Senior High Theatre dept. had one many years ago. (Like 1991 ??)
Might be worth a phone call.
Kimberley
Retainer of Useless Information.
Might be worth a phone call.
Kimberley
Retainer of Useless Information.
JoeMcWed, 25 Oct 2000, 03:45 pm
RE: Hanging Harness Required!!!!
Rob
Try a construction old type harness (I believe they are still aproved and used), which was used on building sites a few years ago (most Electricains, Plumbers and biulding tradesman would still have them around their workshops), as the new ones have an automatic fall arrester which is bulky and hard to mask or hide in a costume - but any of the older type with rear top pick ups should be suitable - HOWEVER, DEPENDING ON THE HIGHT AND WHAT ANCHORING IS USED - it would be in your AND/OR THE THEATRES interest to find a freindly 'Rigger' (qualified) to assist {bribe him/her with a family ticket - complimentry} because this is also your 'duty of care' and becomes everyones concerned responsiblity and liability - WORKSAFE might help or advise -
BUT please don't take 'IT' lightly BE SHOW SAFE.
I flew the two warm prop 'Cherubs' in "GREASE" flying in and out on a dual track as well as up and down - but this was under strick suppervission of Fly Master Rigger and with safety crew standing by, who also ensured that the performers and others did not venture in to the danger zone - it was a Ben Hur operations in order to safe guard all concerned. Unfortunetly both Pro 'n Am tend to think because it seams easy and they have done it a few times without incident, 'IT' is safe. - sorry! you won't get a bananna for that thought.
Are there other ways of contriving it - rear shadow on a cloth or transposition lighting on a scrim or other artistic/illusional ways that can be devised.
Best of Luck
CHOOKAS
Joe McCabe
'Old Mill' - Stage Craft Guild
Try a construction old type harness (I believe they are still aproved and used), which was used on building sites a few years ago (most Electricains, Plumbers and biulding tradesman would still have them around their workshops), as the new ones have an automatic fall arrester which is bulky and hard to mask or hide in a costume - but any of the older type with rear top pick ups should be suitable - HOWEVER, DEPENDING ON THE HIGHT AND WHAT ANCHORING IS USED - it would be in your AND/OR THE THEATRES interest to find a freindly 'Rigger' (qualified) to assist {bribe him/her with a family ticket - complimentry} because this is also your 'duty of care' and becomes everyones concerned responsiblity and liability - WORKSAFE might help or advise -
BUT please don't take 'IT' lightly BE SHOW SAFE.
I flew the two warm prop 'Cherubs' in "GREASE" flying in and out on a dual track as well as up and down - but this was under strick suppervission of Fly Master Rigger and with safety crew standing by, who also ensured that the performers and others did not venture in to the danger zone - it was a Ben Hur operations in order to safe guard all concerned. Unfortunetly both Pro 'n Am tend to think because it seams easy and they have done it a few times without incident, 'IT' is safe. - sorry! you won't get a bananna for that thought.
Are there other ways of contriving it - rear shadow on a cloth or transposition lighting on a scrim or other artistic/illusional ways that can be devised.
Best of Luck
CHOOKAS
Joe McCabe
'Old Mill' - Stage Craft Guild
RebeccaSun, 29 Oct 2000, 11:47 am
RE: Hanging Harness Required!!!!
A wise person once told me that "the safest way to hang an actor is dont".
Just thought I'd throw that in here. :)
-bec
Just thought I'd throw that in here. :)
-bec
JoeMcSun, 29 Oct 2000, 09:52 pm
RE: Hanging Harness Required!!!!
I wonder why only actors???
Must be a wise person indeed!!!
Joe
Must be a wise person indeed!!!
Joe
robWed, 1 Nov 2000, 04:18 pm
RE: Hanging Harness Required!!!!
Thanks for all the suggestions. It certainly is looking a lot harder to co-ordinate that I first thought (thanks Joe now I feel terrified as well!!) In regards to lighting effect, etc, that might be a safer and better way to do it.
Ciao
Ciao
JoeMcThu, 2 Nov 2000, 07:28 pm
RE: Hanging Harness Required!!!!
Rob
Check with Hal he has a harness, hopefully he would have already contacted you with the offer.
Speaking to Norma the other day and checking the script, the warm prop who hangs can have the rope preset around his neck and the harness connected. The olny problem would be where on stage he would be anchored from? However as he hangs around thru the next scene there a number of possibilties???
Sorry about getting you worried, but this industry is about the most potentionaly dangerous, although it amazes the hell out of me how more arn't hurt on a daily bases - there is supposed to be an an angel or saint looking over us in theatre (ask Norma she will tell you who it is) logicaly there has to be someone or something?!?!
Now as for lightning thats a different story!
Have fun
Joe McCabe
Old Mill Stage Craft Guld
Check with Hal he has a harness, hopefully he would have already contacted you with the offer.
Speaking to Norma the other day and checking the script, the warm prop who hangs can have the rope preset around his neck and the harness connected. The olny problem would be where on stage he would be anchored from? However as he hangs around thru the next scene there a number of possibilties???
Sorry about getting you worried, but this industry is about the most potentionaly dangerous, although it amazes the hell out of me how more arn't hurt on a daily bases - there is supposed to be an an angel or saint looking over us in theatre (ask Norma she will tell you who it is) logicaly there has to be someone or something?!?!
Now as for lightning thats a different story!
Have fun
Joe McCabe
Old Mill Stage Craft Guld
KimberleyThu, 2 Nov 2000, 07:40 pm
RE: Saint that looks after us
The saint that Joe refers to is St Genesius, patron saint of actors (and theatre).
There is a theatre in Sydney (Clarence Street I think) which is situated in a former church. They are "The Genesians" in his honour and have a stained glass portrait of him in the auditorium.
His story (Readers Digest Condenced Version) is that he was a Roman Actor employed to lampoon the Christians, but became converted (guess he was the first 'method' actor). Poor guy was martyred if I remember correctly.
There is a theatre in Sydney (Clarence Street I think) which is situated in a former church. They are "The Genesians" in his honour and have a stained glass portrait of him in the auditorium.
His story (Readers Digest Condenced Version) is that he was a Roman Actor employed to lampoon the Christians, but became converted (guess he was the first 'method' actor). Poor guy was martyred if I remember correctly.