Saw Ed the Anti-Christ too

Yes, I too have witnessed the particular splendour of Dan Wall's "Ed The Anti-Christ". I had the privilege of sharing Gold's Gym with The Right Dishonourable Peter Foss. He farted at one point; an astounding response from an (f)arts minister. Usually they're conspicuous in their silence. A full blown grunt is welcome by all and sundry, if only to confirm the minister is still alive.I enjoyed the play, for all its minute faults- by no means is this a fully fleshed out work, as I'm sure author and cast would agree. However it deserves your patronage (yeah, you reading this, I mean YOU!!), simply to prove to the cretins responsible for Artrage that Perth is actually interested in supporting local work, and that this body should treat these works with according dignity, as opposed to stuffing them in some derelict steroid barn!If you saw "Ed", tell the folks at Artrage to get the resources together to make Perth works viable, as (surprise, surprise) there IS a community that will respond.Elps: if my earlier comments offend, then either grow a skin or please recognize them as satire... and if you're Peter Foss, I hope you get burned bigtime in the upcoming selection process, you facile git.

> Oh I recognise satire all right, just as I recognise that posting
> your comments here will achieve nothing. Why don't you have the balls
> to send them to the Minister yourself so he actually knows how you
> feel?Hi Jason,In relation to your comments about Eliot's attitude towards the minister, and other things, I think you ought to appreciate that for some people, like Eliot, posting his thoughts on the ITA pages is sufficient for him to feel that he has voiced his opinion adequately. If you believe the web page to be unimportant and insufficient to meet your particular needs, then that's fine. Don't judge whether or not a person has "balls" on the basis of whether or not this system is adequate as a means by which to air their views.Take care,Jamie Cant

EMAILNOTICES>noSo yet again you're all prepared to make a noise here - having absolutely no effect where it matters? Surely if you have a problem with a person or publication it is better to go to them so they are at least aware there is discontent with their actions in the community?

EMAILNOTICES>noHere are Peter Foss' contact details:The Hon. Peter Foss QC MLCAttorney General; Minister for Justice; The Arts12th FloorDumas House2 Havelock StreetWEST PERTH WA 6005Phone: [08] 9321 2222Facsimile: [08] 9322 5149Electorate Office: [08] 9375 9072Website: http://www.wa.gov.au/cabinet/foss/index.htmlFax: (08) 9322 5149

Hi Jason and SamanthaA very quick response as i'm trying to get the new message boards up; in between MC'ing the Commonhealth Games, reupholstering my lounge and running the ITA Adjudicator's course. Did i mention i have a day job?> So yet again you're all prepared to make a noise here - having
> absolutely no effect where it matters?What's with this "you're all" business? There is no "us and them" here. Or is someone not telling me something?You've become one of the "all" by the simple act of participating in the debate. In so doing, you've demonstrated how broad that "all" is. I'd be careful about trying to categorise the entire audience at this site. Can i safely say we're a disparate bunch? ;)> Surely if you have a problem
> with a person or publication it is better to go to them so they are
> at least aware there is discontent with their actions in the community?Foss' staff are very aware of the existance of this website - a staff member in his office wrote to me some time ago seeking permission to include material from here in the Minister's Outing Perth webpage. hmmm... is there a hidden message there? There must be. The Outing Perth page is still blank.Pardon my cynicism, but how much notice do you think any politician takes of an individual letter or complaint? Our political process relies on like-minded individuals seeking each other out and lobbying for political and social change.I should think this page is a very appropriate place to raise any concerns with the state of theatre in WA. It may sound simply like whining (and perhaps occasionally it is!), but it fills other important roles such as encouraging community awareness of and participation in these areas of concern. It would be patently wrong to assume that someone posting their concerns here is not also actively pursuing the issue through other channels.There's a link below to a letter sent to the Minister on behalf of the ITA.Cheers
Grant

This is Peter Foss' e-mail address.I thought this information might be useful for those people who believe the ITA website to be an inadequate forum for raising issues and voicing opinions and would like to take their concerns further:apayet@mpc.wa.gov.au Thanks Samantha for the other contact details.JC

Hi Grant,Glad to hear from you. Funny how often we seem to find ourselves on the same side of a debate(?). Does that mean that we have 'balls', can 'take the heat' and are 'playing with the big boys'? Or are we just 'whinging'?Hope all is well with the 'new, improved' ITA web pages. Thanks again for all your hard work.Take care,Jamie Cant

Hi Jamie> This is Peter Foss' e-mail address.Bzzzzzt! hehe try againI think you'll find that this email address belongs to:>>Ms Anoutchka Payet
>>Executive Assistant to the
>>Minister for the ArtsMs Payet and i have corresponded about including information from the ITA website in the Minister's "Outing Perth" page.Cheers
Grant

> So yet again you're all prepared to make a noise here - having
> absolutely no effect where it matters? Surely if you have a problem
> with a person or publication it is better to go to them so they are
> at least aware there is discontent with their actions in the community?
>Hi Jason,I think Grant has pretty well summed up my opinion on this matter. Hope you found his comments useful and enlightening - I did. Maintain the rage though.Take care,JC

Howdy Grant,Guess the gal's as close as we're gonna get to the big chief. Thanks for the tip pilgrim.JC

EMAILNOTICES>no*One* letter won't achieve anything - but if enough people are passionate enough to express their displeasure to the government or a newspaper, then they will have to acknowledge them. A vocal mass of people will always be heard, a voice in the wilderness gets blown away.

EMAILNOTICES>noOh I recognise satire all right, just as I recognise that posting your comments here will achieve nothing. Why don't you have the balls to send them to the Minister yourself so he actually knows how you feel?

> *One* letter won't achieve anything - but if enough people are
> passionate enough to express their displeasure to the government or
> a newspaper, then they will have to acknowledge them. A vocal mass
> of people will always be heard, a voice in the wilderness gets blown
> away.Jason,The 'one' letter to which you refer was written by the representative of an organisation that has many members. As such, it is not really comparable to a letter that you or I may write. The letter that was sent by the ITA to Peter Foss was representative of a "vocal mass" and directed in a style and manner that would have considerably mmore impact than single responses from individuals.JC

EMAILNOTICES>no> *One* letter won't achieve anything - but if enough people are
> passionate enough to express their displeasure to the government or
> a newspaper, then they will have to acknowledge them. A vocal mass
> of people will always be heard, a voice in the wilderness gets blown
> away.I'm sure that that is what is being achieved by this Web Site, infact, that's what this discussion group is all about most of the time. We are a vocal mass, and a very loud one at that. Steven Shaw of the MEAA is very aware of this site and has even refered to it and quoted from it recent correspondence to the Government, Foss and MEAA Members.The Minister and members of his division are also aware of this site. I would be certain that PR representatives would keep a close eye on this (and other sites similar) as a way of montitoring public reaction to ... well ... anything related to the arts really.I get the impression that you still consider Web based discussion areas such as this to be of low consideration to the powers that be. Let me assure you that this new discussion media has not been overlooked by such offices. Expressing an opinion here not only allows one to voice their opinions to other like minded individuals, it also adds to the overwhelming voice, that can only get louder. If El. had not written his opinions here, then we would never know what he thought/felt. Others, like myself, might think that he did not care about such things and therefor leave him out of further correspondence. He, myself and many others have been quoted from this Web Site in publications that are distributed to a much larger audience than those on this site. His and our opinions will stir thoughts in others and possibly make them consider their opinions, help them make up their minds what they think/feel.If we all did not post here and posted letters only, the effect would be so small. Through this site, we can reach so many more and let our feelings be known. Do not deny us this right.Besides, just 'cause someone has posted here does not mean that they haven't also posted a letter (as you suggested) to the right unhonourable. Don't judge 'till you have ALL the facts.Jeff "Post-it" Watkins

That doesn't work either, in my experience anyway.Teri

EMAILNOTICES>no>
> That doesn't work either, in my experience anyway.> TeriTell us about your experience then and why you think it doesn't work.

> Hi Jamie> Bzzzzzt! hehe try again> I think you'll find that this email address belongs to:> Ms Payet and i have corresponded about including information
> from the ITA website in the Minister's "Outing Perth" page.
>> Cheers
> GrantHi,
Does anyone actually have Mr Foss's correct email address or postal address (im sure that one has been posted on here before but forgive me for being to lazy to search;P).
Also, I am looking for work experience in the feild of Arts Management. I have applied to the course at the Academy and would like to get some experience before I start studying. Does anyone have any contacts they could forward onto me? or suggestions on where to start.I have studied Commerce and Theatre Arts at uni so the combination of the two gives me a good background. Any help is greatly appreciated.ThanksCatherine McStravick

EMAILNOTICES>noThe Hon. Peter Foss QC MLC
Attorney General; Minister for Justice; The Arts
12th Floor
Dumas House
2 Havelock Street
WEST PERTH WA 6005Phone: [08] 9321 2222
Facsimile: [08] 9322 5149
Electorate Office: [08] 9375 9072