Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat
Sun, 1 May 2005, 04:48 pmsare301070 posts in thread
Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat
Sun, 1 May 2005, 04:48 pmDoes anyone have any details about the production of Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat which will be at the Regal Theatre in June (Perth)?
sare3010Sun, 1 May 2005, 04:48 pm
Does anyone have any details about the production of Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat which will be at the Regal Theatre in June (Perth)?
Walter PlingeSun, 1 May 2005, 08:39 pm
Re: Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat
Hello
i look for a playback cd or dvd without voice of "jOSEPH & THE AMAZING TECHNICOLOR DREAMCOAT". i need information about this. is it possible to buy in australia ? i wait for your answer . best regards chris
i look for a playback cd or dvd without voice of "jOSEPH & THE AMAZING TECHNICOLOR DREAMCOAT". i need information about this. is it possible to buy in australia ? i wait for your answer . best regards chris
Walter PlingeSun, 1 May 2005, 08:40 pm
Re: Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat
Hello
i look for a playback cd or dvd without voices of "jOSEPH & THE AMAZING TECHNICOLOR DREAMCOAT". i need information about this. is it possible to buy in australia ? i wait for your answer . best regards chris
i look for a playback cd or dvd without voices of "jOSEPH & THE AMAZING TECHNICOLOR DREAMCOAT". i need information about this. is it possible to buy in australia ? i wait for your answer . best regards chris
Walter PlingeFri, 13 May 2005, 12:29 am
Re: Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat
Chris,
Best place to look is probably amazon.com
Best place to look is probably amazon.com
Walter PlingeSat, 14 May 2005, 03:32 pm
Re: Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat
Hi There
Joseph will be playing at the Regal Theatre, Subiaco, for the following:
Wed 1st June 7.30pm
Thurs 2nd June 7.30pm
Fri 3rd June 8pm
Sat 4th June 2pm & 8pm
Sun 5th June 2pm
Tickets are available from WACPA (Kay Maccione 0413 389 581)
Adult $33
Conc. $27
Child (under 15) $16
Or BOCS
Adult $38.50
Conc. $29.50
Child: $18
Plus booking fee $6.60 per booking
Joseph will be playing at the Regal Theatre, Subiaco, for the following:
Wed 1st June 7.30pm
Thurs 2nd June 7.30pm
Fri 3rd June 8pm
Sat 4th June 2pm & 8pm
Sun 5th June 2pm
Tickets are available from WACPA (Kay Maccione 0413 389 581)
Adult $33
Conc. $27
Child (under 15) $16
Or BOCS
Adult $38.50
Conc. $29.50
Child: $18
Plus booking fee $6.60 per booking
Walter PlingeWed, 1 June 2005, 05:19 pm
Re: Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat
Yep, it starts tonight, Wednesday the 1st of June at 7.30pm and runs until this Sunday. Thursday is at 7.30, Friday at 8pm, Saturday the 4th is at 2pm and 8pm and the final performance is on Sunday at 2pm.
Great sets, live band, excellent choreography (gotta say that, coz I'm close to the choreographer, but it's true anyway), wonderful singing , colourful coat, what more can I say ?
Enjoy. Tickets through BOCS and at the door.
regarDS
Great sets, live band, excellent choreography (gotta say that, coz I'm close to the choreographer, but it's true anyway), wonderful singing , colourful coat, what more can I say ?
Enjoy. Tickets through BOCS and at the door.
regarDS
Walter PlingeSat, 4 June 2005, 06:14 pm
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i cant say it was that great...
apart from wicked costumes and great sets (Kudos to the team who did them, nice job!) i think the overall performances of the cast n whats seems to be the lack of musical theatre vocals,strength of stage presence and performance training is what let the musical down. it was a good effort tho, seeing as any andrew lloyd webber musical is tough to tackle without any formal training.
but still, Les Mis in Pinjarra was awesome, and they where all amatuers, so i guess it just comes down to personal opinion.
good job tho guys.
apart from wicked costumes and great sets (Kudos to the team who did them, nice job!) i think the overall performances of the cast n whats seems to be the lack of musical theatre vocals,strength of stage presence and performance training is what let the musical down. it was a good effort tho, seeing as any andrew lloyd webber musical is tough to tackle without any formal training.
but still, Les Mis in Pinjarra was awesome, and they where all amatuers, so i guess it just comes down to personal opinion.
good job tho guys.
Walter PlingeSat, 4 June 2005, 06:27 pm
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I saw the 'Joseph...' performance this afternoon together with my two young daughters. We both thought it was great. Congratulations to the Narrator (sorry - don't know your name) - Great singing and the lyrics came across so clearly.
Well done!
Well done!
Walter PlingeSun, 5 June 2005, 04:27 pm
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Saw Joseph production yesterday (Sat) afternoon and loved it. Yes, I agree with another post that the costumes and sets were brilliant - and probably done on a tight budget too. No visible technical hitches - a rare thing in non-professional productions.
Yes, some obvious hiccups but great recovery by (the understudy) Joseph. He has a lovely voice and great confidence on stage. The memory lapses might not have been too obvious to most due to that.
Great voices!! I could not believe the quality as I expected something pretty amateurish.
The narrator's voice was wonderful. Was this the understudy too? She struggled a few times in the higher register (it was VERY high, poor thing!) and she lost the (most competent) orchestra at times, but altogether a good performance. It is an incredibly demanding role and I found it an interesting change to see a female narrator.
What can I say about Pharoah that the audience did not tell him with their applause? A natural...
Benjamin Calypso singer was BRILLIANT - going to see lots of this one!
And Canaan days singer also fantastic - a most enjoyable and rounded performance, thank you!
A beautiful experience that must have been a blast to be involved with - don't you think??
Thank you to cast and crew...
Elsa
Yes, some obvious hiccups but great recovery by (the understudy) Joseph. He has a lovely voice and great confidence on stage. The memory lapses might not have been too obvious to most due to that.
Great voices!! I could not believe the quality as I expected something pretty amateurish.
The narrator's voice was wonderful. Was this the understudy too? She struggled a few times in the higher register (it was VERY high, poor thing!) and she lost the (most competent) orchestra at times, but altogether a good performance. It is an incredibly demanding role and I found it an interesting change to see a female narrator.
What can I say about Pharoah that the audience did not tell him with their applause? A natural...
Benjamin Calypso singer was BRILLIANT - going to see lots of this one!
And Canaan days singer also fantastic - a most enjoyable and rounded performance, thank you!
A beautiful experience that must have been a blast to be involved with - don't you think??
Thank you to cast and crew...
Elsa
Walter PlingeTue, 7 June 2005, 01:08 am
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"The narrator's voice was wonderful. Was this the understudy too? She struggled a few times in the higher register (it was VERY high, poor thing!) and she lost the (most competent) orchestra at times, but altogether a good performance. It is an incredibly demanding role and I found it an interesting change to see a female narrator."
..... isnt the narrator traditionally cast as a female? wasnt the narrator a girl in the original production? Also, she couldnt hit those high notes and therefore shouldn't have been cast as the part.
..... isnt the narrator traditionally cast as a female? wasnt the narrator a girl in the original production? Also, she couldnt hit those high notes and therefore shouldn't have been cast as the part.
Walter PlingeThu, 9 June 2005, 03:50 pm
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I saw "Joseph" at the Regal. I think it is fantastic to see the director
(Bettine or Betty was it?) go out there and really make a fool out of herself! My God what a waste of time it was! If you are going to charge that much for tickets make sure that you have a professional cast or don't waste your time and money directing a half arsed production of what is a great musical. And what's with the W.A. College of Performing arts? I thought that it was the academy (wappa). How long have this lot been getting away with using this name? I'm sure that the Edith Cowan People would love to hear how this lot seems to be "using" a name that is synonomous with someone elses entity. I'm hoping that this is the first (And the last) we see of this "tinpot" company. They really sold the theatre goers a real "pup" when they staged this. I'm sure Andrew LLoyd Webber & Tim Rice will be eternally squirming when they realise that for the first time in history, Betty Crul (sorry I can't recall the conductors name) has successfully destroyed the undestroyable music of this fine pair. Never again!
(Bettine or Betty was it?) go out there and really make a fool out of herself! My God what a waste of time it was! If you are going to charge that much for tickets make sure that you have a professional cast or don't waste your time and money directing a half arsed production of what is a great musical. And what's with the W.A. College of Performing arts? I thought that it was the academy (wappa). How long have this lot been getting away with using this name? I'm sure that the Edith Cowan People would love to hear how this lot seems to be "using" a name that is synonomous with someone elses entity. I'm hoping that this is the first (And the last) we see of this "tinpot" company. They really sold the theatre goers a real "pup" when they staged this. I'm sure Andrew LLoyd Webber & Tim Rice will be eternally squirming when they realise that for the first time in history, Betty Crul (sorry I can't recall the conductors name) has successfully destroyed the undestroyable music of this fine pair. Never again!
Walter PlingeThu, 9 June 2005, 06:42 pm
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WAAPA cant do anything, WA College of Performing Arts is a registered business name, so if they get in a huff about it, they cant do a thing. and as far as i know WACPA has been around for a very long time.
and it was amatuer, it wasnt the best cast, but for what they had they did an awesome job. the sets where superb and the costumes were excellent. all i can suggest is that they get someone in to do some technical training with the performers.
and anyways ms Sonia Van Der Muellen, unless u can do a better job of putting an Andrew Lloyd Webber musical together, i suggest u keep ur mouth closed.
and it was amatuer, it wasnt the best cast, but for what they had they did an awesome job. the sets where superb and the costumes were excellent. all i can suggest is that they get someone in to do some technical training with the performers.
and anyways ms Sonia Van Der Muellen, unless u can do a better job of putting an Andrew Lloyd Webber musical together, i suggest u keep ur mouth closed.
Walter PlingeThu, 9 June 2005, 07:59 pm
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corey, you are lovely for defending them, but sonia has the right to her opinion. as do i. they cast people who werent right for the roles and while the sets were awesome, the cast brought the production down. thats theatre baby!
crgwllmsThu, 9 June 2005, 10:13 pm
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Sonia Van Der Muellen wrote:
> And what's with the W.A. College of Performing arts?
> I thought that it was the academy (wappa). How long have this
> lot been getting away with using this name? I'm sure that the
> Edith Cowan People would love to hear how this lot seems to
> be "using" a name that is synonomous with someone elses
> entity.
'WAAPA' has a double A, and stands for the WA Academy of Performing Arts...often shortened, as you say, to 'the Academy'....based at Edith Cowan University.
'WA College of Performing Arts' is something entirely separate, and I'm pretty sure the Edith Cowan people aren't too worried about being confused with them. Nor, might I add, do I think are John Curtin College of Performing Arts, who also suffer from a similar, but distinguishable, name.
Cheers,
Craig
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> And what's with the W.A. College of Performing arts?
> I thought that it was the academy (wappa). How long have this
> lot been getting away with using this name? I'm sure that the
> Edith Cowan People would love to hear how this lot seems to
> be "using" a name that is synonomous with someone elses
> entity.
'WAAPA' has a double A, and stands for the WA Academy of Performing Arts...often shortened, as you say, to 'the Academy'....based at Edith Cowan University.
'WA College of Performing Arts' is something entirely separate, and I'm pretty sure the Edith Cowan people aren't too worried about being confused with them. Nor, might I add, do I think are John Curtin College of Performing Arts, who also suffer from a similar, but distinguishable, name.
Cheers,
Craig
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Walter PlingeFri, 10 June 2005, 08:21 am
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The WA branch of the Media, Entertainment and Arts Alliance, which is the trade union covering performers and theatre crew is currently taking something of an interest in this so called "pro - am" issue. Obviously our primary aim is to strive to ensure that performers and other cultural workers can receive pay, conditions and other benefits broadly in line with prevailing community standards. Otherwise, what's the point of traiing people to be performers at all unless we just want the arts to be something Australians do for a hobby while we enjoy imported entertainment and cultural product. Against this we somehow have to balance all those desires and expectations (however unrealistic) of people who want to "tread the boards" or play in a band or do a stand up comedy routine in a pub or whatever. It's an arts thing basically because you don't often see people working for free as labourers on building sites or working in factories because they love the work for its own sake and want a few minutes of fame before an audience, or for some other reason. Balancing all these competing expectations in a democratic society is a difficult task for the union but we have just developed a draft policy on the issue. That policy is aiming to be a public statement about the criteria the union will use when deciding when, if and how to intevene in productions like this in WA.
Walter PlingeFri, 10 June 2005, 09:40 pm
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Did you find a C.D. with no voices for Joseph??If yes, Where?? I would like one for a small production my daughter's school is trying to put together. Thanks
Walter PlingeMon, 13 June 2005, 05:08 pm
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I was at that production of "Joseph" and I unforuntaely have to agree with Sonia. The cast tried hard but it was well below par. It was not a very good producition. It's not the actors fault (I really liked the Calypso Guy & the Elvis- he was a real hoot). I felt that the direction was quite poor for a venue such as the Regal. I would have to agree with Sonia (I spoke to alot of people in the auditorium who felt that) it was just not worth the money spent. I felt that the WACPA people running this production should have not attempted to impress beyond their means. Johnny Young Talent School (and no i'm not associated with it) would have handled this in a far more professional way. I hope that now he is back in town that Johnny Young has a go at putting on shows because i think he will do a great job. Hate to say it WACPA, you guys are also rans!
Walter PlingeMon, 13 June 2005, 08:56 pm
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Johnny Young? oh yay, lets put on a show full of step-ball changes and spirit fingers... i think people need to get out of the whole sparkly leotards and repetative choreography and do something worth while... perth's culture has gone down the drain as far as im concerned.
Walter PlingeMon, 13 June 2005, 11:47 pm
Was Joseph's coat not that colourful?
Doesn't anyone have anything good to say about this production? It really couldn't have been THAT BAD... and we are talking about amateur theatre so one can't go into it expecting something spectacular?
I personally have not seen the show or know of anyone who is involved. I was thinking about going before I read some of the reviews. I'm sure the cast members would appreciate some kind of positive feedback...
Anyone ?
TommyTue, 14 June 2005, 07:53 am
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I saw the production. I don't think it was the casts fault. They did their best. I lay blame of the productions shortcomings on Pettine crouls direction. Christ shes really terrible! I last saw one of her productions a few years ago at the Bridge theatre (it's no longer there) (Bloody hell that was bad enough. I mean audience were walking out during the show!) If you want positive feedback for (what i think) were students at WACPA then lets give it. Yes you all have talent but you are at the wrong place. If they teach you to perform like that then TRY ANOTHER SCHOOL OTHER THAN WACPA! I'm sure you'll get great training at some of the more established schools that are around ( like John Curtin SOTA) or even in the local theatres. If I wanted to pay $38 to watcha car crash then I would go to the speedway
Walter PlingeTue, 14 June 2005, 08:26 am
Re: Was Joseph's coat not that colourful?
Hello Julie
There have been a few good reviews and most of the negative reviews do not put the whole cast down.
I did a bit of research on WACPA on this site after I heard the radio adverts, because that is one of this sites great assets and found out that WACPA has regularly put on musicals, is based in Morley and is a private school.
My assumption was that they would do an in house production as much as possible to give their students their 15 minutes of fame and it sounds as though they were well supported technically as is the Regal's reputation as the Regal provides good tech support for amateur groups to ensure programme continuity. Direction is the domain of the show.
Without open auditions, it is hard to guarantee the quality of some amateur production that we have seen at the Regal so it is buyer beware.
Perhaps WACPA needs to put "preview" nights at discount prices to get the positive reviews they need for good ticket sales for future shows.
For those people that want to se WAAPA shows, go to http://www.waapa.ecu.edu.au/events.php to see what shows are coming up. WAAPA have changed their production schedules to allow the public to see their shows so it is easier to get tickets. You can get tickets to Crazy For You for $31 BUT and there is always BUTS, the academy theatre is not the Regal so there are less seats, no flying which limits set design and there is no guarantee that every show will be fantastic but going on last years Witches Of Eastwick you should get value for money. I bought my tickets weeks ago.
It's a question of relativity.
Don
There have been a few good reviews and most of the negative reviews do not put the whole cast down.
I did a bit of research on WACPA on this site after I heard the radio adverts, because that is one of this sites great assets and found out that WACPA has regularly put on musicals, is based in Morley and is a private school.
My assumption was that they would do an in house production as much as possible to give their students their 15 minutes of fame and it sounds as though they were well supported technically as is the Regal's reputation as the Regal provides good tech support for amateur groups to ensure programme continuity. Direction is the domain of the show.
Without open auditions, it is hard to guarantee the quality of some amateur production that we have seen at the Regal so it is buyer beware.
Perhaps WACPA needs to put "preview" nights at discount prices to get the positive reviews they need for good ticket sales for future shows.
For those people that want to se WAAPA shows, go to http://www.waapa.ecu.edu.au/events.php to see what shows are coming up. WAAPA have changed their production schedules to allow the public to see their shows so it is easier to get tickets. You can get tickets to Crazy For You for $31 BUT and there is always BUTS, the academy theatre is not the Regal so there are less seats, no flying which limits set design and there is no guarantee that every show will be fantastic but going on last years Witches Of Eastwick you should get value for money. I bought my tickets weeks ago.
It's a question of relativity.
Don
Walter PlingeTue, 14 June 2005, 08:55 am
Re: Was Joseph's coat not that colourful?
I agree with you Don. The regal is a good place to do such show. Comparing The WA College of Arts to What the "Academy" is doing is like comparing a state of the art(s) 2005 edition Lexus with a
Leyland P-76. One is of a far great value and quality to the (arts) community. the other is a private school with a questionable reputation. I mean whose ever heard of these guys until now? They say they've been around for some years but who are they? At least you know that with the WA Academy of Performing Arts you get quality tuition. I'm sure they do at WA College of Arts but who are they? Shows like this are designed to show case the education that these students are supposed to be getting. They are supposed to be trained to put on a quality performance. This didn't happen but it came close. I suspect that this production was done more to put the name of the people running the college on the map rather than give the students an oppotunity to perform in public. They could have easily hired a smaller theatre and made a bigger profit. But I think peoples egos are getting in the way. Theatre is cruel sometimes!
Leyland P-76. One is of a far great value and quality to the (arts) community. the other is a private school with a questionable reputation. I mean whose ever heard of these guys until now? They say they've been around for some years but who are they? At least you know that with the WA Academy of Performing Arts you get quality tuition. I'm sure they do at WA College of Arts but who are they? Shows like this are designed to show case the education that these students are supposed to be getting. They are supposed to be trained to put on a quality performance. This didn't happen but it came close. I suspect that this production was done more to put the name of the people running the college on the map rather than give the students an oppotunity to perform in public. They could have easily hired a smaller theatre and made a bigger profit. But I think peoples egos are getting in the way. Theatre is cruel sometimes!
Walter PlingeTue, 14 June 2005, 04:28 pm
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I saw it and it was a load of crap. The only thing good about it was the costumes. I did n't see many people in the audience. Did it make any money. I'm not so sure. Keep up the great work WAAPA!
Walter PlingeTue, 14 June 2005, 07:54 pm
Good effort Joseph cast!
Yes well it obviously was not the cast's fault, from what I hear the negativity of the show stemmed more from direction, perhaps even the musical direction??
I just would liked to have heard more positive things about the show besides the ravishing costumes and great venue.. It sounds like the cast made a good effort regardless.
Perhaps one or more cast members picked up on the shabby direction of the show?? This may be an invaluable lesson learnt...
if a piece of meat doesn't smell right.. it usually isn't!
Cheers!!
Walter PlingeTue, 14 June 2005, 09:37 pm
Re: Good effort Joseph cast!
Did u know the direction was pretty much taken straight from the movie? its like the director said "Watch the movie, and try to immitate it as best as you can"
but still, it is amatuer... also, its giving kids an opportunity to perform on a big stage, and thats a rare thing these days, so as bad as the productions are, i think we should still support them, i mean they can only learn from there mistakes!
but still, it is amatuer... also, its giving kids an opportunity to perform on a big stage, and thats a rare thing these days, so as bad as the productions are, i think we should still support them, i mean they can only learn from there mistakes!
Walter PlingeTue, 14 June 2005, 10:15 pm
Re: Was Joseph's coat not that colourful?
Julie, I think the whole point is that it was so very overblown. Charging such large amounts of money for an amateur show is pretty unusual as far as I know. I was in a Playlovers show at the Regal last yr and the tickets werent nearly that much. Plus every amateur show ive seen in the last 2 yrs has at least been watchable.
Also everyone saying "Oh my, what a terrible show to be put on at the Regal" is also missing the point. Anyone can put on a show at the regal if they pay the charges! I think we have a case here of too much money and not enough musical direction.
Also everyone saying "Oh my, what a terrible show to be put on at the Regal" is also missing the point. Anyone can put on a show at the regal if they pay the charges! I think we have a case here of too much money and not enough musical direction.
Walter PlingeWed, 15 June 2005, 07:19 am
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I agree with you Julie, the cast were talented enough, no doubt about it. I am a bit concerned about Corey's comment from the direction. "Imitate the movie"? What kind of a competant director would (ever in their right minds) do that? Why don't you just get the rights to the movie and show that at the regal instead? it would have been far more entertaining. I agree with the musical direction comment. Petina Croul's musical direction was a load of crap. It was like we were supposed to be watching her and not the show. I found her direction tedious, uninspiring and not at all supportive of this cast who did make a good go of it. Keep the cast. Get rid of the Musical director and director. They were a waste of time and aduience money!
Walter PlingeWed, 15 June 2005, 07:28 am
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Aw come on. It was bad but "get the rights to the movie?" Actually some clever lot did do that with the sound of music and put kareoke words at the bottom and encouraged everyone to dress up and sing a long. It wasn't half bad you know because the audience became the show, it really connected strangers who loved this movie. We could learn something from that WACPA. Don't ever treat your audience like their stupid and will like anything you throw at them. How about giving them something to enjoy. By the way is it Opera Picola or the WA College of Performing Arts that put this turkey on? I seem to be getting two diffrernt companies that seem to be putting the same show on!
Like Cory said "It still amatuer" (not the cast- I hope they become professionals in their own right and put on decent shows themselves)
The only thing amatuer was the directors!@^**&^
Thou beslubbering clapper-clawed flax-wench!
Like Cory said "It still amatuer" (not the cast- I hope they become professionals in their own right and put on decent shows themselves)
The only thing amatuer was the directors!@^**&^
Thou beslubbering clapper-clawed flax-wench!
dance03Wed, 15 June 2005, 10:19 am
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Thou roguish milk-livered wagtail!
Pettines productions are always a load of @!#$. Why does she even bother?
Walter PlingeWed, 15 June 2005, 03:00 pm
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Hmm...being a cast member of this production Joseph and His Amazing techniclour dreamcoat there were positive aspects and negative aspects. The cast were talented and were excellent to work with. Such negative press is unnecessary. Everyone is entitled to their opinion; but that is it; it is one person's opinion. The production team also worked very well together. I have worked in movies, commercials, directing, plays and musicals and yet apparently I was unprofessional according to some reviews. The article in The West Australian was also quite positive.
Regards
(supposingly) professional actor
Regards
(supposingly) professional actor
Walter PlingeWed, 15 June 2005, 04:12 pm
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Dear professional actor,
I don't think they were having a go at the casts performance (I think that includes you whoever you are.) I think they are having a go at the way it was organised. If you aread the article in the West, he was poistive but he also gave advice. In essence, don't try to make out to be something you are not. The actors were fine and they did their best. What the people producing the show should ask themselves. What was their real purpose putting on a show like this? Was it to make a name for themselves or to give people an opportunity to perform. I think that whole idea to put it on at the Regal was to stroke some peoples egos. Theatre is for the people. Never forget that WA arts academy
I don't think they were having a go at the casts performance (I think that includes you whoever you are.) I think they are having a go at the way it was organised. If you aread the article in the West, he was poistive but he also gave advice. In essence, don't try to make out to be something you are not. The actors were fine and they did their best. What the people producing the show should ask themselves. What was their real purpose putting on a show like this? Was it to make a name for themselves or to give people an opportunity to perform. I think that whole idea to put it on at the Regal was to stroke some peoples egos. Theatre is for the people. Never forget that WA arts academy
Walter PlingeWed, 15 June 2005, 04:18 pm
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Totally agree with you Pete! Join the aliiance and get behind them on this one! That way we can have shows of quality that doesn't take away from the integrity of the piece. I worry about Pro-am as well becuase the only ones who really win is the people taking in the money (The producers) who can "cut corners" by not paying a chorus.
It just doesn't seem fair
Professional Actor of stage and movie, commercials too!.
It just doesn't seem fair
Professional Actor of stage and movie, commercials too!.
Walter PlingeWed, 15 June 2005, 11:31 pm
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Don't be disheartened Joseph Cast Member
(aka:professionalactor)
You are very correct in saying that it is only one or a few peoples' opinions. And if you did get a bad review it does not necessarily mean you've done a horrible job of it- it is just that individual reviewer's opinion. I myself am a fellow perth performer and was in a musical just last year.
Most of the reviews I got as a principal player, were good but there were one or two that weren't all that flattering. But that's theatre- someone is always going to have a differing opinion- sometimes they just don't like you - it could be anything! Sad isn't it?
Anyhow, what mattered most was that "I" was happy with my performances. One important lesson I've learnt in theatre is try your best and don't take it to heart.
Cheers!
(aka:professionalactor)
You are very correct in saying that it is only one or a few peoples' opinions. And if you did get a bad review it does not necessarily mean you've done a horrible job of it- it is just that individual reviewer's opinion. I myself am a fellow perth performer and was in a musical just last year.
Most of the reviews I got as a principal player, were good but there were one or two that weren't all that flattering. But that's theatre- someone is always going to have a differing opinion- sometimes they just don't like you - it could be anything! Sad isn't it?
Anyhow, what mattered most was that "I" was happy with my performances. One important lesson I've learnt in theatre is try your best and don't take it to heart.
Cheers!
Walter PlingeWed, 15 June 2005, 11:32 pm
RE:Joseph Cast Member
Don't be disheartened Joseph Cast Member
(aka:professionalactor)
You are very correct in saying that it is only one or a few peoples' opinions. And if you did get a bad review it does not necessarily mean you've done a horrible job of it- it is just that individual reviewer's opinion. I myself am a fellow perth performer and was in a musical just last year.
Most of the reviews I got as a principal player, were good but there were one or two that weren't all that flattering. But that's theatre- someone is always going to have a differing opinion- sometimes they just don't like you - it could be anything! Sad isn't it?
Anyhow, what mattered most was that "I" was happy with my performances. One important lesson I've learnt in theatre is try your best and don't take it to heart.
Cheers!
(aka:professionalactor)
You are very correct in saying that it is only one or a few peoples' opinions. And if you did get a bad review it does not necessarily mean you've done a horrible job of it- it is just that individual reviewer's opinion. I myself am a fellow perth performer and was in a musical just last year.
Most of the reviews I got as a principal player, were good but there were one or two that weren't all that flattering. But that's theatre- someone is always going to have a differing opinion- sometimes they just don't like you - it could be anything! Sad isn't it?
Anyhow, what mattered most was that "I" was happy with my performances. One important lesson I've learnt in theatre is try your best and don't take it to heart.
Cheers!
Walter PlingeThu, 16 June 2005, 07:04 am
Re: Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat
You're right Julie. I hope that professional actor takes you advice.Its all true!
Walter PlingeThu, 16 June 2005, 07:05 am
Re: Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat
P.S. Any plans to do another musical/opera WACPA? i really enjoyed it.
Walter PlingeThu, 16 June 2005, 07:12 am
RE:Joseph Cast Member
You're right jullie!. But please no more shows like the last night(of Joseph) for the WA College of Performing (F)arts! Being at one of those shows is like having an expresso enema. We all know we have to go there once in a while, we all know what they do, we all know that it will give you the absolute shits for a long time after and we all know that it will be of great relief once the whole thing is where it belongs. In the toilet (Just like the college appears to be going if you read some of the reviews!)
Thou paunchy doghearted pumpion!
Thou paunchy doghearted pumpion!
Walter PlingeThu, 16 June 2005, 03:58 pm
Re: Was Joseph's coat not that colourful?
I was one of the cast members of Joseph, and personally, i think that you all should be ashamed. I have been involved with musical theater for a long time now, and even if the cast was not as brilliant as you expected, then dont expect as much from an AMETURE theater company trying to make it look professional. We all had to audition, except for about 8 or 9 people that were actually involved with the WACPA.
Firstly the amount of time we got with the band, it was riddicolous. (Advice is to give at least more than 3 rehearsals with a band)
Thats right only three!!!
Secondly, even though Joseph was not professional, the tickets needed to be the price they were, for the...
Staging
Power
Costumes
Sets
Makeup
Band Hire
Ushers
Regal Staff
Advertising
the list is endless
How many of you have actually directed a musical....
You dont know how hard it is to do
Oh well
Bye
Firstly the amount of time we got with the band, it was riddicolous. (Advice is to give at least more than 3 rehearsals with a band)
Thats right only three!!!
Secondly, even though Joseph was not professional, the tickets needed to be the price they were, for the...
Staging
Power
Costumes
Sets
Makeup
Band Hire
Ushers
Regal Staff
Advertising
the list is endless
How many of you have actually directed a musical....
You dont know how hard it is to do
Oh well
Bye
Walter PlingeThu, 16 June 2005, 04:06 pm
Re: Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat
thanks for your advice. I understand where you are coming. The producers were definately doing it for the cast. I was happy with my performance and I enjoyed being on the stage. I just think there is a lot of negativity in regards to the performance. i accept criticism as every actor should or else we would not improve. Even when I am 80 years old there will always be something to learn; a new character; emotion etc.
professional actor
professional actor
Walter PlingeThu, 16 June 2005, 04:30 pm
Re: Was Joseph's coat not that colourful?
I don't think they were rubbishing the cast. I think they were rubbishing the way it was put together. 3 rehersals is simply not good enough if you are to do a good performance. I put that down to poor managment at WACPA rather than the cast. You could have easily put in on using the same budget at a different venue (one less expensive without these kinds of overheads). You the cast were treated poorly by the WACPA management, that is the general buzz. Makes you wonder what these guys are on about. (And yes I have directed a musical which made a profit!)
Why were there 8 or 9 that didn't audition. Doesn't seem fair on you don't you think? Would you do another musical with WACPA after what you have told us?
Why were there 8 or 9 that didn't audition. Doesn't seem fair on you don't you think? Would you do another musical with WACPA after what you have told us?
Walter PlingeThu, 16 June 2005, 08:19 pm
Re: Was Joseph's coat not that colourful?
To "Look Over"
Um, did I make any comments at all about the acting? No. Did I need to know your resume? No. Did u think that perhaps my own opinioin is based on the value of my experience? No.
Not that it's even relevant but I have directed a muscial before. And yes, I understand what it entails. From what you've just told us, Jospeh was disorganised as well as being overpriced. Defending the show by telling me "not to expect as much from amateur theatre" is ridiculous because we've already established that for an amateur show Joseph was incredibly overblown.
Also, thanks for the list of what Jospeh needed to pay for. FYI, every musical has a list of costs pretty similar and usually dont ask for $40 a ticket....
Um, did I make any comments at all about the acting? No. Did I need to know your resume? No. Did u think that perhaps my own opinioin is based on the value of my experience? No.
Not that it's even relevant but I have directed a muscial before. And yes, I understand what it entails. From what you've just told us, Jospeh was disorganised as well as being overpriced. Defending the show by telling me "not to expect as much from amateur theatre" is ridiculous because we've already established that for an amateur show Joseph was incredibly overblown.
Also, thanks for the list of what Jospeh needed to pay for. FYI, every musical has a list of costs pretty similar and usually dont ask for $40 a ticket....
Walter PlingeFri, 17 June 2005, 04:58 pm
Re: Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat
Well said Mrs.Sodenheim!
Let face it, Peetyines crowls production was a schemozzle and the only person you could blame is Peetyine herself. I've been in theatre a long time and I have never ever once seen a totally disoragnised lot of people managing this show. Every time I phone the college ( Igave up after three times) I would get any relaent information and I ended up having to buy at the door. The cast did well and that God she has them because the the show simply didn't hang together. I'm sure sure when these director have come from (I've never heard of her before) but if she wants to do that sort of show, try some less established theatrical places (such as New Zealand or Tasmania) to set up a show. I'm sure you'll get respect from them.
Thou loggerheaded common-kissing flirt-gill!
Let face it, Peetyines crowls production was a schemozzle and the only person you could blame is Peetyine herself. I've been in theatre a long time and I have never ever once seen a totally disoragnised lot of people managing this show. Every time I phone the college ( Igave up after three times) I would get any relaent information and I ended up having to buy at the door. The cast did well and that God she has them because the the show simply didn't hang together. I'm sure sure when these director have come from (I've never heard of her before) but if she wants to do that sort of show, try some less established theatrical places (such as New Zealand or Tasmania) to set up a show. I'm sure you'll get respect from them.
Thou loggerheaded common-kissing flirt-gill!
crgwllmsFri, 17 June 2005, 05:30 pm
Re: Technicolor Yawn
Busby wrote:
>
> Well said Mrs.Sodenheim!
>
> Let face it, Peetyines crowls production was a schemozzle and
> the only person you could blame is Peetyine herself. I've
> been in theatre a long time and I have never ever once seen a
> totally disoragnised lot of people managing this show. Every
> time I phone the college ( Igave up after three times) I
> would get any relaent information and I ended up having to
> buy at the door. The cast did well and that God she has them
> because the the show simply didn't hang together. I'm sure
> sure when these director have come from (I've never heard of
> her before) but if she wants to do that sort of show, try
> some less established theatrical places (such as New Zealand
> or Tasmania) to set up a show. I'm sure you'll get respect
> from them.
You've been in theatre a long time, eh?...but the very sentence in which you express this MAKES NO SENSE. Neither do several other sentences. Your spelling and grammar are a 'disorragnised schemozzle'.
New Zealand and Tasmania are less established theatrical places than Morley..? What are you on about?
I'm sure you're NOT getting respect from us.
Cheers,
Craig
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>
> Well said Mrs.Sodenheim!
>
> Let face it, Peetyines crowls production was a schemozzle and
> the only person you could blame is Peetyine herself. I've
> been in theatre a long time and I have never ever once seen a
> totally disoragnised lot of people managing this show. Every
> time I phone the college ( Igave up after three times) I
> would get any relaent information and I ended up having to
> buy at the door. The cast did well and that God she has them
> because the the show simply didn't hang together. I'm sure
> sure when these director have come from (I've never heard of
> her before) but if she wants to do that sort of show, try
> some less established theatrical places (such as New Zealand
> or Tasmania) to set up a show. I'm sure you'll get respect
> from them.
You've been in theatre a long time, eh?...but the very sentence in which you express this MAKES NO SENSE. Neither do several other sentences. Your spelling and grammar are a 'disorragnised schemozzle'.
New Zealand and Tasmania are less established theatrical places than Morley..? What are you on about?
I'm sure you're NOT getting respect from us.
Cheers,
Craig
[%sig%]
Walter PlingeFri, 17 June 2005, 06:15 pm
Re: Technicolor Yawn
who would have thought an amatuer production would have stirred so much controversy? its great isnt it!
Walter PlingeFri, 17 June 2005, 09:25 pm
Joseph and the Amazing Technicalities!
Damn right!
All comes down to a point made time and time again in the theatre world and probably on this website..
Situations in which bad people/companies handling theatrical productions can almost have predictable outcomes! I agree with the various opinions stated in these posts that 'Amateur theatre will be just that - amateur' and is done most of the time for the pure love of it BUT...
it doesn't necessarily have to be theatrical crap! There is a level of professionalism that should be associated with the sewing of these productions and audiences should still be able to get what they pay for - particularly when the prices are astonishingly high!
"All's well that ends well" they say!!
Walter PlingeFri, 17 June 2005, 09:33 pm
Joseph and the Amazing Technicalities!
Damn right!
All comes down to a point made time and time again in the theatre world and probably on this website..
Situations in which bad people/companies handling theatrical productions can almost have predictable outcomes! I agree with the various opinions stated in these posts that 'Amateur theatre will be just that - amateur' and is done most of the time for the pure love of it BUT...
it doesn't necessarily have to be theatrical crap! There is a level of professionalism that should be associated with the sewing of these productions and audiences should still be able to get what they pay for - particularly when the prices are astonishingly high!
"All's well that ends well" they say!!
Walter PlingeSat, 18 June 2005, 08:07 pm
Re: Joseph and the Amazing Technicalities!
Well done to Jules for summing it up nicely. Andf toBusby .... "Mrs SODENheim?" What are you trying to say? (I kid, I kid....)
crgwllmsSun, 19 June 2005, 02:52 am
Sew you say
Jules wrote:
>
>
> There is a level of professionalism that should be associated with the
> sewing of these productions
Sewing...?
Are you saying these productions should be seamless?
Or that amateur theatre is losing the thread?
Perhaps it should try a different tack?
Perhaps Joseph's Dreamcoat wasn't a patch on other productions?
Did it have you in stitches?
Did it fail to tie up the loose ends?
Or is it that musicals use many Singers?
Can't think of any more puns.... Darn!
Cheers,
Craig
>
>
> There is a level of professionalism that should be associated with the
> sewing of these productions
Sewing...?
Are you saying these productions should be seamless?
Or that amateur theatre is losing the thread?
Perhaps it should try a different tack?
Perhaps Joseph's Dreamcoat wasn't a patch on other productions?
Did it have you in stitches?
Did it fail to tie up the loose ends?
Or is it that musicals use many Singers?
Can't think of any more puns.... Darn!
Cheers,
Craig
Walter PlingeSun, 19 June 2005, 03:57 pm
Re: Sew you say
I'm seamless! .... I mean "speechless" craig!
Too many puns to tackle in that post! :P
Walter PlingeMon, 20 June 2005, 12:32 pm
Re: Was Joseph's coat not that colourful?
The answer is uncertain
the direction was crap, and the directors were lame and disorganised, but meeting the cast of brothers, wives and kids, even the principals made it all worth it in the end from my piont of view.
do u no what i mean
i found a relationship with one of the cast members, and we are together today, if it wasnt for WACPA, there would be no ?????
no, i wouldnt do another, simply because of the bitchyness
have a nice one
cheers
the direction was crap, and the directors were lame and disorganised, but meeting the cast of brothers, wives and kids, even the principals made it all worth it in the end from my piont of view.
do u no what i mean
i found a relationship with one of the cast members, and we are together today, if it wasnt for WACPA, there would be no ?????
no, i wouldnt do another, simply because of the bitchyness
have a nice one
cheers