BAPA who got in

Anyone know who or how many got into BAPA.

do u mean 4 musical theatre of BA acting?

I am interested in who got into MT at BAPA. And if you got a spot are you taking it. Friend of mine got a spot but has declined cos she got into WAAPA. I dont reckon many Vics read this forum

I have been accepted into MT at the Arts Academy, and yes, I will be taking my place. *LE*

Thats great LE. You are one person for sure in the course how about all the other 29??? Who else? Plus Im dying to know how many B letters get given out? Lady Ella were you told of the B letters at the auditions??? cos we were told you either got in or got a b letter or got a sorry letter. the B letter meaning those who didnt get first round places they would be considered in second round offers. Wonder how many B letters cos us B letter pple are waiting patiently. My friend said no Vic's got call backs for WAAPA BA MT so none got in, WAAPA panel obviously didnt like our standard, therefore I would suspect that more would try for BAPA. ahhhh

Apparetly they give A B and C letters. A your in, B you could be in if someone pulls out and C your definately out. I dont think BAPA is popular given that no one has really replied on this forum like they have for WAAPA

Apparetly they give A B and C letters. A your in, B you could be in if someone pulls out and C your definately out. I dont think BAPA is popular given that no one has really replied on this forum like they have for WAAPA

We were told that from the 60 callbacks there would be 20 of each... I think. BAPA is less well-known than WAAPA, it hasn't been operating as long and therefore doesn't have the same reputation, which I think is why less people audition. There are so many places if you look for them where you can study MT, it's just a matter of lookng for them and being prepared to perhaps do a diploma or certificate if you can't get into a degree. *LE*

LE do you mean 20 A letters and 20 B letters from the 60 call backs. I thought they take 30 all up. There are a number of people now who are taking their VCA places instead of the BAPA. I cant work that out cos I thought a BA is worth more than a foundation course, however each to their own. Any BAPA students can shed some light on the process of acceptances for BAPA A's and B's

>>>LE do you mean 20 A letters and 20 B letters from the 60 call backs? That's the impression I got, but don't quote me on it! I would assume any numbers they give would be approximate, as they wouldn't want to say they would take 30 but only find 25 people they thought were ready. Could cause all sorts of trouble. As far as people taking the VCA over Ballarat, it is personal choice, definitely. The two people I know who got into both & have chosen VCA are doing so, I believe, because they prefer to live in Melbourne, they believe they will get better industry exposure being based in Melbourne, and a shorter course means that they can get out 'into' the industry sooner. *LM*

Why did BAPA audition more pple in the last week of DEC??? Didnt they get what they were after, LE how many were at your callback. And how many did you see at your first audition? Do you reckon there was 60, did you see heaps of pple. Also I would think that you would want to keep agents away and stop them poaching those from a 3 year course anyway. Let them complete the course then they can select the agents they want to audition for. Thats what others have done and they got great agents. Plus Agents go to the final showcase anyways.

Why did BAPA audition more pple in the last week of DEC??? Didnt they get what they were after, LE how many were at your callback. And how many did you see at your first audition? Do you reckon there was 60, did you see heaps of pple. Also I would think that you would want to keep agents away and stop them poaching those from a 3 year course anyway. Let them complete the course then they can select the agents they want to audition for. Thats what others have done and they got great agents. Plus Agents go to the final showcase anyways.

There were 20 people at my callback, there were 3 callback sessions. We were told that there were 60 people all together. I would say that many of the people who got "A" letters also got offers for other courses, such as WAAPA and the VCA, so not all of them would have accepted. Therefore Ballarat has places to fill, and they would be calling back some of their 'question-marked' auditionees to give them another go. And it's very true that most institutions do not want their students to have any exposure while they are still training, preferring that their students focus wholly on their training. But that doesn't mean that everyone follows that rule. I know several people here in Adelaide who are getting into much trouble with Flinders Drama Centre & AIT Arts because they are doing outside shows as well as their courses. They want to get as much exposure and experience as they can in the local industry and not just rely on the qualification that they'll have at the end. Again, it comes down to personal choice. I'm not saying that those who chose the VCA over Ballarat WILL get any more exposure, just that they FEEL they are better placed for that to happen in Melbourne. *LE*

In your callback session what was the standard like. I dont want you to think Im rude or anything and I dont want you to put individuals down either but generally overall? eg were there stand outs, was everyone at the same level, were there a few that were very mediocre?? Im just interested because not may MT courses have so many, like 20 at the call backs together. Basically can you , sort of gauge, who would get in? When I have been to call backs sometimes the standard was very poor. I mean their audition songs were great BUT they could not do anything else or sing any other song or act in a group. I think if you do the same audition songs over and over and master them, it may not be a good or acurate indication of your talent, hence the reason they have group callbacks.

There are alot of pple from Adelaide taking spots interstate, LE are you from the Adelaide Dance Comp scene or the Theatre scene

Mikey N, I'm from the "Theatre Scene" as you put it. Are you a member of one of these scenes yourself?

Im from the dance scene, but friend of mine did both, she's in Sydney now. She did Shout and 24 hour show plus dance comps for years

Ben and Claire are declining their BAPA places, they are from the "Theatre Scene". They are accepting VCA I dont know of any "Dance Scene" people who auditioned

Um! Have u got ben and claire's permission to state that they are declining their positions?

Yeah its no secret, they have told everyone in our group in Adelaide thank you. Also Mia is going to WAAPA and Amy is going to AIM and are not taking their spots at BAPA either, if anyone knows them too. These people mean nothing to the people who dont know them and mean something to those who are interested in what they are doing.

>>>>These people mean nothing to the people who dont know them and mean something to those who are interested in what they are doing>>>> Then why post their names on a public forum? People who do not know them do not care. People who do know them would already know of their decisions - they're both popular performers and news spreads quickly in this lil' ol' town. Who are you to be deciding whether or not you can name these people?

Hey Im glad they were mentioned mate, good to hear what friends they are doing, since moving interstate from Adelaide you dont always hear who got in where or what shows pple are doing. Wow the VCA, good move guys and congrats.

Totally agree Jonno, havent seen the guys for a couple of years now and great to hear they got into the VCA. Yes lil old Adelaide is a small place but when your not there you lose touch. Im estatic they are at the VCA this year, now we can catch up in Melb, Im so excited

Well, as I see it, many talented Adelaidians, move interstate cos there is nothing in Adelaide to keep you there. No MT courses, only Flinders for Drama, (well good drama anyway), so all my friends are in different states. 'THE' group has got smaller. Thats why Im in NSW, and its so hard to keep in contact will all your friends when your studying and performing plus working. Such a busy life and a bit slack on my part too. I didnt know Mia got into WAAPA and that is so fantastic. She will be even further away from me :( I too like to hear what my friends are doing. Im with you Jonno and Candi Its just so great to hear who got into what. Is there anyone else moving?. Its ok for the Eastern states people cos there are heaps of performing arts course and you all stay in touch and party tog. In Adelaide you lose people every year to another state, your group of friends get smaller and smaller and I mean MT friends. Plus not all their friends know there decisions when you live far away!!! Yes you might tell your friends in Adelaide but what about all your friends interstate, I personally love to know whos doing what. I read this forum all the time and so cool to hear about our guys :)

LE I know where your coming from and most of us understand it is a private matter however, I dont think Renee did it maliciously or was derogatory. Sounds to me that she is proud of her friends for getting into the VCA Some people just dont think, and dont think that putting names on a forum is a problem and from the other 3 posts above they welcome the info. Im from interstate and dont know them but well done to these guys for getting into the VCA, they will love it. Good to see Adelaide doing so well. Your junior theatre and dance programs must be of a high standard that most are persuing further education and careers interstate and getting into the courses. Especially when these people had more than one to chose from.

I never meant to imply that Renee was being malicious. In fact, knowing both of the people in question, I can state that at least one of them would love it that their successs is being publicised! My point was more towards the dangerous nature of naming people without their permission. You're right, a lot of people don't think, or worse, think that it doesn't matter, but you never know who could be reading. And as far as keeping in touch with people, might I suggest MySpace? You can search for people you've lost touch with, and as long as they want you to know about what they're up to, it's a really easy way to stay updated. (as long, of course, as they use it too... but what actor/singer/performer doesn't want to promote theselves to everyone they know? I know I do ;-) )

I have no interest in this topic however the comments about using names without permission made me laugh. Unless there is a court order suppressing a persons name from publication, you can use any individuals name as long as the comment is not malicious or derogatory. If the individuals in question have stated publically their intentions and it is well known to All in lil old Adelaide, therefore those conveying their message it is not an offense, with or without permission. As myspace was mentioned, Renee's post could be placed on there for all to see, its no different. The media uses and prints names of individual continually without permission. My friend who just completed NIDA Acting found a story about himself in the Sydney Morning Herald recently, it was about how a NIDA grad had landed his first acting job in LA. It named him. He did not give his permission and more people read that than this forum. Brittany Spears doesnt give permission for photos and accusation to be printed in magazines.

I agree Editor, if your going to be successful in the Entertainment Industry there maybe heaps written about you that you either do or dont like with or without permission. Thick skinned is what you have to be. If I got into the VCA I would want everyone to know. Who cares. If they didnt want people to know what they were doing- its simple- dont tell anyone. Word of mouth is far worse than print. If your going to want to give or get permission every time someone uses your name get out the industry cos it wont happen. What do you do Music Theatre for, to be a performer, teach etc. Sorry but I reckon any MT person is going to want their name OUT THERE and they are not going to ask you every time for permission. People use the forum to find out stuff. Its about theatre, whats available, whos in it, whats on, how auditions go. Its informative. Plus its dangerous WHY, who is it that could be reading. If I was a friend of theres and got on my phone and in conversation told another what they were doing , how do you know who else the person I told will tell or who they know. Its all a crock

"Brittany"... haha. In terms of journalism, in most cases the journalists will endeavour to contact the people they mention in the article, unless: - it is in a quote or comment made to them by another person interviewed for the article - they can't contact the person for whatever reason - they have received the information via a media release or other notice by the company/organisation/publicist who is trying to publicise someone or something - they have the information via already public resources (eg. internet, published info/media releases, other publications, etc) Just because the person mentioned in an article/post/whatever hasn't given permission doesn't mean the info wasn't provided in some small way to the interviewer/researcher/writer. The Prompt Copy Networking emerging theatre professionals www.thepromptcopy.com Sticky Apple Legs Emerging puppetry company www.freewebs.com/stickyapplelegs Puppets in Melbourne www.freewebs.com/puppetsinmelbourne

My point exactly NA, who cares where the info comes from or if the person is contactable, if its not malicious or deflamatory or a lie( ha ha) you can use the material without the persons permission

Yes Brittany he he he. I dont think she or her publicist gave permission for those 'no knickers' photos in the NW or the drunk Brittany photos. But maybe a 'friend' tipped them off and said more than they should. Dangerous , yes its always dangerous to tell friend's things cos you never know what might happen with the info or where it might end up. Hey another example, Today Tonight, are always after stories for their program and those who decline/dont give permission are still named on national TV whether they like it or not.

Devulging a first name is not a breach of privacy, it has been done many times on this forum and every other forum, my space and similar. Many have spoken about friends, collegues and teachers by first name If you gave out full name, address, phone number etc without permission thats a different story

and apologise for causing such a stir. In my opinion, regardless whether it is a breach of privacy or not, it is still discourteous, especially when stated by an anonymous user. Okay, so in this particular instance it was not hurting anyone and therefore was probably okay, but I wouldn't do it. The difference with MySpace, and the reason I mentioned it, is that it is up to the individual to choose not only what information about themselves they supply, but they also have the choice over who sees it. But I can also see that most others disagree, therefore I've said my bit and won't continue with the subject. *LE*

Good luck LE with the BAPA course, maybe my friend will be there with you but she wont find out till after the 16th Jan cos she was one of the ones who auditioned on the 20/12/06 and has to wait for the second round offers cos first round offers were given just after the call backs you were at.

Does WAAPA have a deadline for acceptances too. Do they have second rounters waiting or if some of the 18 they chose decide not to take spots, say they just have 15, is that it 15 in the course???? How does it work anyone know? At least BAPA have a backup.

is BAPA the ballarat uni?? excuse the ignorance,

Yes its at the Ballarat Uni's Arts Academy, Camp Street campus near the main shopping mall and just off Sturt Street. Its a great institution, I left Waapa and came here

why did u leave waapa for ballarat. i know what i would've done - and I go to ballarat!!!

They realised they were just as talentless as David Meadows, who did the same thing

The person I know who left waapa for Bapa, his father who lives in Melbourne has a terminal illness. Personal attacks are unwarrented

Thank you for the kind words not but I moved for family reasons. However, no one is talentless if they got into waapa in the first place or any other MT school. There are many reasons why ppl change which are personal. BAPA was started by 2 well known ex Nida ppl and some of the BAPA teachers are ex waapa. The teaching standard is extremely high. And given I have been to both I would never play one against the other. They are different in some aspects but achieving the same result. At the end of the day both the waapa and bapa student ends up with a recognised BA. Waapa has been around longer and has earned its reputation and bapa is getting there. No MT course is a waste of time and no one who gets into any course is talentless. We do things for reasons that suit the individual.

Yep thats what I would expect from a mingecock. "those who throw stone are always paid back" keep your eyes peeled Changing venues cos a family member has a life threatening illness is nothing to be joked about and naming persons and stating they are talentless is a sign of weakness and jealously We may not know who you are but the bone has been pointed.

Any B letter people know if they are in yet??? The acceptance cut off day for A letters was yesterday

Wrong =) VTAC offers only came out yesterday.

WRONG The letter attached to my B letter says A letters have until the 16th Jan to accept their BAPA BA of MT, this is the cut off date for acceptances. They will notify B letter applicants who are still under consideration from the 17th Jan. I am not registered with VTAC. I only completed a Direct Entry application and did not have to go through VTAC at all and have a B letter. My friend who accepted her place didnt go through VTAC either.

My sis isnt registered with VTAC, she did a direct entry. Yes BAPA did say the accepted applicants had to reply by 16/1/07 and those on the waiting list will know if they are in within a few days of this date.

Ok then, sorry. My A letter didn't have an acceptance date, I did have to apply through VTAC, and I was told I had to wait for my VTAC approval.

I am really confused about what you have been told. Can you explain please. What you have been informed is totally different but Im not saying its wrong by any means. I got an A letter last year and accepted my place immediately for BAPA BA MT. I didnt have to wait for VTAC approval cos I was accepted directly by the Arts Academy. My A letter was on a BAPA letter head and the VTAC info within the letter was generalised. BAPA advises VTAC of your approval and acceptance and your name would have appeared in the paper. There was no need to wait until you see your name. B letter people are told a few days after the 16th if the A letters dont respond or accept.

from the Arts Academy reads as follows; "Following your recent audition/interview... I am pleased to inform you that you have met the pre-selection requirements. This means that (Ballarat Uni) is prepared to make you an offer in the main round of VTAC offers provided you also satisfy tertiary entrance requirements... Please be aware that this letter does not constitute an official offer (Formal advice of an offer will be received through VTAC on Tuesday 16th January 2007)." And the VTAC offer came in the mail on Wednesday with advice on how to enrol =). There has been no mention of cut-off dates in either letter.

But I got offered a offer today YEAH and I had a B letter and I will need to accept by the 4th Feb. My letter was different as I auditioned in Dec. Honestly my letter was nothing like yours.