paullSun, 7 Sept 2008, 08:16 am Last night I went to see an unknown Musical called All Shook Up at the Riverside Theatre at the Perth Convention and Exhibition Centre. I went in not knowing what to expect as this was a new show to Perth featuring songs by Elvis being performed by a new Youth Theatre Company called Mesh Theatre Inc. Well all I can say is that my expectations were sent to new limits. WOW what a night!!!! And judging by the almost 1000 people that were there I am sure they felt the same way I did. The Cast, especially the Lead Characters were on par with anything that I have seen on a professional level. Singing, Dancing and Acting was just amazing. The Live Band nearly stole the show for me, they were brilliant. All other aspects of this production just clicked into gear. I spoke with one of the producers after the show and he said that Mesh Theatre was only 4 months old and was launched to give 16 to 30 year olds an opportunity to perform and be involved in all production aspects and showcase their talents on the Professional Stage. Well they really did that and hats off to them for creating such a fantastic first show. It really highlights the fantastic young talent we have in Perth. What did disturb me though was when the producer said that despite constant contact of the Arts Editor at the West Australian to publicise this show, it apparently fell on deaf ears and they ended up just ignoring any emails or phone contacts. The West is supposed to represent the Performing Arts view for all West Australians but as has been the case with this newspaper in the past a typical "one paper town mentality exists" show coverage of performing arts is selective rather than embraced as a whole.
I am so looking forward to seeing the future plans and performances of this exciting new theatre and really do hope that more Perth theatregoers support the worthy goals that Mesh Theatre Inc is trying to achieve. Check out their website. Keep up the great work Mesh you have started brilliantly!!!!!!!!!
I really think that you
I really think that you should state in your review that you are one of the founders of MESH, Paul, and not pretend that you are just a regular theatregoing punter.
www.meltheco.org.au
MoorySun, 7 Sept 2008, 11:36 am Why be negatative?
This site really is a lets get at each other site isn't. Who ever the writer of the review is he is correct and he hasnot said or pretended to be someone else so jeffhansen your comment is not valid.
The show all shook up was an outstanding show and showed what heights the amateur arena can lift too. We as Perth peopel should embrace the fact that young adults can be show cased and do an outstanding job. This show had everything that is good in the world. Love Romance Laughter Song Dance Smiles, it had no drugs no violence no swearing, now that in this day and age is hardly seen.
I congratualte the cast the crew the director the producer for a superb show and one that could have ran for longer as they recieved good patronage.
Arguably the Best Show In Perth for 2008
Moory said in his post
Moory said in his post entitled 'Why be so negatative?'(sic):
This show had everything that is good in the world. Love Romance Laughter Song Dance Smiles.
- You know what I also love about the world? Punctuation and grammar. It gets me HARD.
Moory also said:
it had no drugs no violence no swearing, now that in this day and age is hardly seen.
- Oh, you prude!
Moory concluded by saying:
Arguably the Best Show In Perth for 2008.
- Yes, but if someone like Jeff makes a VERY IMPORTANT POINT REGARDING THE VALIDITY OF THE REVIEW, he is subjected to the incoherent ramblings of someone involved in the show, which you are.
Walter PlingeSun, 7 Sept 2008, 01:00 pm
Another celebration of
Another celebration of mediocrity.
Way to go Perth. Keep up that reputation.
:p
Walter PlingeSun, 7 Sept 2008, 03:07 pm
The original review is
The original review is obviously written by someone involved in the production. I saw it and yes, it is important to promote the growth of younger performers but to advertise it by saying that your 'expectations were taken to a new level', makes me wonder what your expectations were prior to this???
it was at best..okay.
As for the response from 'Daniel Kershaw'...who is this gormless looking idiot, who crops up with his uneducated opinion? Why the hell is he going on about grammar? Who cares its a comment forum! If you are so concerned with correct style and form, may I ask why you use capital letters to emphasise your rantings?
I think the face rings a bell, I have had the miss fortune of seeing you before on stage...I don't think you are very good are you? Never mind Danny Boy you can always play the part of the irritating little turd (you are actually quite good at that).
The Anti-Kershaw Fan Club
Thank you very much for teaching me a new word: gormless. It's a great word! But I have to disagree. I just asked my mummy if I am ugly and she said, “No sweetie, you have so much character in your face”, which probably means she actually agrees with you. Unfortunately, you did make a number of errors with punctuation and grammar, so now you just look like a dickhead. Who is REALLY (oh no, I used caps lock – run for the hills) the uneducated one? I have a Double Bachelor from Curtin University and the only thing you have is a Masters in Shits from a Great Height from the University of Mud Slinging.
Thank you very much for complimenting me on my little turd acting. I think you are referring to Melville’s recent production of, “Constipated Snow White and the Seven Expected Turds”.
Yes Moory, you are correct.
Yes Moory, you are correct. Paull has not written an anonymous review. I have no issue with the content of the review, just the fact that he didn't declare an interest up front.
There is a difference between promoting a show, and writing an unbiased review. From a personal point of view, I like to know when I'm reading a "review" written by someone involved with the show.
www.meltheco.org.au
What's with the name
What's with the name calling by the Walters??? Daniel at least has the decency to put his name (and gormless face) to his posts.
I hope you don't think I posted that Dan, with your reference to Melville....
www.meltheco.org.au
Walter PlingeSun, 7 Sept 2008, 06:49 pm
oh danny boy if only i was
oh danny boy if only i was aware...im so sorry. if i had known that you had a degree from curtin university i would never have said anything. i can see why such a raw nerve was touched, the very thought that someone might discredit the achievements you have gained is just scandalous. when debating the great institutions of learning one always thinks of cambridge, oxford and of course curtin. may i ask what degree you gained...im glad you acknowledged that i was indeed a 'master' of shits...but i have a strong feeling that you were being comedic...bravo (terrific wit).
i feel that your mummy was taking the preverbial piss out of you saying you were attractive, however, every mother is entitled to her opinion...she must be very proud of you. as for the character 'bit', i think the closest you got to any kind of credible character was when the photographer took that photo of you and shouted 'cheese' the spontinaity in which you responded is quite unbelievable.
well danny, i did enjoy your reply and look forward to further discussions with you. it's not every day you meet a real cheddar with such an intellectual outlook on the arts. im sure all who read your initial comment would have felt quite humble, such obvious yet insightful observations...you seem to be very much the peter ustinov of the theatrical cheese world.
someone once said that it is better to be lying in the gutter looking up at the stars...i would say it is better two have a degree from curtin university (maybe, not as lyrical and poetic as oscar wilde but...more acurate.
you must be the envy of all you encounter danny...talent, looks and a double degree from one of the greatest universities in bentley!
anyway, keep that sizable chin up and that letter box mouth smiling.
The Anti-Kershaw Fan Club part 2
It was just a random reference Jeff.
Anon, Curtin maybe not as prestigious as Oxford, but at least I can construct a coherent sentence. I also have enough dignity not to stoop to pubescent name calling. You can reply with whatever idiotic rhapsody you wish, but I won't respond.
Cry Wolf, And Let Pinch The Grains Of Salt.
Kershaw curtly countered;
"You can reply with whatever idiotic rhapsody you wish, but I won't respond."
You've already promised that sort of thing before, Daniel. A few mere months back you (quite understandably) declared you would not be back on this site. Yet here you are.
I'm sure you'll understand if don't take this declaration too seriously this time.
Eliot McCann
"Proud and insolent youth; prepare to meet thy doom!"
The Anti-Kershaw Fan Club part 3
Bass Guy declared:
I'm sure you'll understand if don't take this declaration too seriously this time (sic).
Stop picking on me! I know I am a hypocrite, but at least... at least ... I have nothing. hehe.
And another thing....
... why are you so quick to assume that I am "anti" you?
And as for picking on you, well... you do seem to display a knack for setting yourself up for this sort of schtick. You remind me of me ten years ago... worrying, this is.
El
"Proud and insolent youth; prepare to meet thy doom!"
Walter PlingeSun, 7 Sept 2008, 08:33 pm
the anti kershaw fan club part 4
danny boy...whats wrong? i thought you were the sort of spunky chap that could take as much as you gave...yet you seem to have given up too readily. remember this began with your pithy comments about someone elses grammer...i think the point i wanted to make has been made...you have very little to offer except snide comments that lack any depth and you cry and squeal like a pig when confronted (wont stoop too name calling, check your previous posts)...weak daniel...very, very weak!
You shouldn't take my
You shouldn't take my comments so literally. I like to laugh at myself as much as I do others. If you're not anti, than you must be a fan. Thanks :)
I hope I have more hair than you in ten years, but that seems unlikely looking at my family lineage.
Walter PlingeSun, 7 Sept 2008, 08:46 pm
danny, people will take
danny, people will take your comments literally and if they do you must be prepared for it...not everybody out there has your rapier wit. i get you but i dig you, you know that. i am definately a fan, even though i'm new to this...although just from reading the comments you make and the way you handle them, i would suggest you get out more and spend less time in front of your computer...just saying what i think needs to be said danny, you would benefit from more human interaction...i actually think mankind would benefit, we all need a bit of the danny factor. i cant speak highly enough of you danny, however, as you delicately put it i struggle to string a sentence together...i will simply blow you a big kiss.
My God, can we just open
My God, can we just open some sort of "Bash Kershaw" thread so this doesn't consume the entire forum?? ;)
Moory, Jeff's comment is perfectly valid. Paul implied a lack of familiarity with MESH and All Shook Up - if he was one of the founders, then he certainly would have known that the company is new, etc... there are quite a few "apparently"s and "the producer said"s in there, implying that Paul is merely relaying information. Also, it reads like an advertisement. Not a dig at you Paul, but if you have any connection with a show, company or actor you are reviewing, it's considered good form to state it alongside your review.
And just to clarify, I haven't seen the show and I mean no disrespect towards it or MESH - best of luck for the rest of the season.
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Louisa Fitzhardinge
University Dramatic Society
http://uds.asn.au
Walter PlingeSun, 7 Sept 2008, 09:05 pm
love you danny
love you danny
Walter PlingeSun, 7 Sept 2008, 09:59 pm
The West Australian doesn't
The West Australian doesn't review amateur theatre. That's their policy and they stick to it. Harassing the arts editor is only going to put you offside even more.
I wonder why that is. Just
I wonder why that is. Just because people are doing it for fun/love, instead of a job doesn't make the theatre any less valid, in fact I think one could argue the opposite.
www.meltheco.org.au
paullSun, 7 Sept 2008, 10:28 pm The West writes about Community Theatre
The West does write about and review Amateur Theatre in WA. Last week they previewed Playlover's Beauty and The Beast and also MS Society's South Pacific which features Amateur performers and reviewed Annie by at the Regal an Amateur show. As stated they could be more supportive of the performing arts in this town, especially community theatre which is the true backbone of theatre in WA.
Walter PlingeMon, 8 Sept 2008, 08:25 am
Why not write to their
Why not write to their *managing* editor Paul Armstrong then? His email is paul.armstrong@wanews.com.au
JoeMcMon, 8 Sept 2008, 11:44 am It obvious to me, from the
It obvious to me, from the shows they supported, have all been performed at pro rent houses.
So might not the rent houses normal advertising in the west. Have more to do with their support of ameatre, in these rare instances?
calMon, 8 Sept 2008, 11:56 am MESH = WA STAGE SCHOOL
Paull said "I spoke with one of the producers after the show and he said that Mesh Theatre was only 4 months old and was launched to give 16 to 30 year olds an opportunity to perform and be involved in all production aspects and showcase their talents on the Professional Stage."
From what I understood, Mesh is just a new name for the WA Stage School???
Cal
Walter PlingeMon, 8 Sept 2008, 01:38 pm
I am new to the state and
I am new to the state and although people on here seem to very passionate about their 'hobby', I would have to state that the quality of amateur theatre is rather below par.
The slagging off and picking up on each others spelling and grammer is of paramount concern...why?
Surely the real burning issue is the fact that all you people need to look at what your producing and work out how to be more effective in all aspects of performance.
jmuzzMon, 8 Sept 2008, 01:41 pm Posing the obvious question
If you're new to the state, how much theatre have you seen in WA on which to base such an opinion?
Walter PlingeMon, 8 Sept 2008, 02:10 pm
Gutter at the stars
I'm sure in your case Mr Plopping that you are lying in the gutter looking up some guy's trouser leg.
Walter PlingeMon, 8 Sept 2008, 02:14 pm
I have been in WA for 6
I have been in WA for 6 years, originally from Melbourne.
I know this doesn't qualify the 'new' but maybe I should have said, 'newish'.
Anyway, I was simply stating an opinion...if you dont like it, no problem...I have a wide experience in theatre and was curious as to what this website was about. Unfortunately it seems to me that it is like 'amdram' theatre here...full of its own stink! Carry on making the excuses, talking yourselves up and bringing the others down!
Anon
Devil said:
Unfortunately it seems to me that it is like 'amdram' theatre here...full of its own stink! Carry on making the excuses, talking yourselves up and bringing the others down!
- you neglected to mention that a lot of what you said is contributed by anonymous postings such as your own. Registered members are less likely to do that, because their identity is known or can be easily found out. I am sorry you don't find grammar and spelling important, but I do. If people are unable to communicate themselves adequately, then a lot of misunderstanding can occur.
I hope you change your mind about theatre in Western Australia. It's very positive and rewarding to be involved in. Take care.
jmuzzMon, 8 Sept 2008, 02:56 pm Thanks for clarifying....
....and as I've stated on other threads, your opinion is as valid as the next persons. You'll get no argument from me on that.
As regards your comments on the site, sadly, if I was a first-time visitor, I may be inclined to agree.
I'd like to see more positive debate here - healthy discussion of opposing points of view without the need for invective.
I'm not sure that's going to happen soon.
I would encourage you "devil's advocate" to check out a little more Perth theatre - there are some very good productions out there and some great clubs. Those with experience in theatre (and those without) may be surprised what a warm and positive welcome they would get.
Don't let some threads on a website curdle your interest.
Your experience may help bring the standard up to what you've seen in the east. If theatre is your passion - get involved - we'd love to have you.
MooryMon, 8 Sept 2008, 04:15 pm Children, maybe you should
Children, maybe you should stop bickering and grow up.
hope i spelt that all correctly...
LogosMon, 8 Sept 2008, 04:26 pm Well
In the second sentence "Hope" should have a capital H similarly "I" should be capitalised as it is a personal pronoun and "that" and "all" have possibly been inverted in order although the order you have used could be considered correct. I could also start a discussion on the correct use of spelt versus spelled.
Just taking the p*ss. I actually tend to agree with you.
Just one comment, if the gentleman who wrote the review that started this page was associated with the company in all fairness he should have identified himself.
Is that all there is? Well if that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing.
www.tonymoore.id.au
Walter PlingeMon, 8 Sept 2008, 05:48 pm
SERIOUSLY
Grow up the lot of you!
You call yourselves professional?
I can safely say your not!
I'm definately not
I'm definately not professional. I put my hand up to be entirely in it for the fun.
www.meltheco.org.au
Prince and The P-word
Nope, I don't call myself professional- I call myself "Eliot", or "El" if I'm running out of time. So does eyeryone else I know... when they're not hurling viler and more degrading epithets in my general direction.
Eliot McCann
"Proud and insolent youth; prepare to meet thy doom!"
LogosMon, 8 Sept 2008, 10:08 pm Well
Given that I actually earn a living doing theatre I guess that means I'm a professional. Although I have to admit to being an idiot.
Is that all there is? Well if that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing.
www.tonymoore.id.au
Walter PlingeTue, 9 Sept 2008, 09:08 am
Logos.... I think it's
Logos.... I think it's wrong to base someone's professional/amateur status on whether they earn money or not. Although in definition it does refer to "someone in a profession and being paid rather than a past time."
To everyone commenting here - there's CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, and then plain criticism. I'm afraid you're grouped in the latter.
No one's perfect. I saw the show and enjoyed it. Just leave it at that.
S.Loughton
Walter PlingeWed, 10 Sept 2008, 08:23 am
I think these postings
I think these postings prove my point.
Daniel, I think the whole grammer thing is very contrived and irrelevent, just concentrate on what you claim to be interested in.
Walter PlingeWed, 10 Sept 2008, 09:23 am
Bass Guy - What?!?!?
Bass Guy - What?!?!?
LogosWed, 10 Sept 2008, 03:40 pm OK
Interesting point. Why have the above three postings been moderated down? I don't find the one that mentions my name in anyway offensive.
Edit: I have just gone back and reread this thread and noticed that somebody or bodies have taken an axe to it figuratively. Well, I have reread some of the moderated posts and am confused as to why they have been moderated,. Some of them are a bit catty but not offensive that I can see. Here we go again. Thin skinned morons moderating down posts that they don't want seen.
Now this will be moderated no doubt.
Is that all there is? Well if that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing.
www.tonymoore.id.au
Well I'm in Beauty and the
Well I'm in Beauty and the Beast, an ameature theatre production and The West Australian are reviewing that. They came on the 11th.
Walter PlingeMon, 15 Sept 2008, 10:42 am
I Love W.A Amateur Theatre
I've seen a lot of amateur musical theate in W.A - I am not an expert but I am the general paying public - I have a young daughter who has been in a few shows, and she has met NICE people from the theatre world and we often see other shows they are involved in. The majority of amateur shows I have enjoyed, in fact the most fun I've had at a show, was amateur theatre - a Playlovers musical, Eurobeat ( I am not a member). The worst singing in a musical was a professional production of Saturday Night Fever at Burswood, the lead male was a far better dancer than singer. I am looking forward to seeing Wicked in Melb and I expect that will top my list. I am sure the people involved in the mud -slinging in this forum are very different in person and quite pleaseant,(it is all quite funny really - I had a good laugh) I think it's the being anonymous thing that brings out the worst or makes them less guarded in what they say, or then again it's the net - blame it on the net.
I didn't see All Shook Up but heard it was great -wish I could have gone it ended too soon. To another point, The West Australian wrote a review of M.S's Les Mis but it seems that was because it was at The Regal as were the other amateur theatre reviews -so maybe the venue is the common factor.
Walter PlingeSun, 28 Sept 2008, 01:01 am
once again..
Do you guys have jobs?
Because you really seem to have a lot of time to waste.