me! me! me!
Mon, 29 May 2000, 09:34 pmWalter Plinge26 posts in thread
me! me! me!
Mon, 29 May 2000, 09:34 pmhey grant thanx 4 the 'fo. i don't need an agent unless i'm getting professional gigs, right? what's the deal with television series & stuff, is anything shot in perth? i think the only television made here is 'maurice meade' hair salon commercials... i don't have the discipline 2 be completely anorexic - i'm normal weight so i can't be a model - but i have the face & height for modeling, hence my interest in its sister profession - acting. i finished high school 2 yrs ago & that was the last time i did any drama. my renewed interest in performing comes from my friend mark naglazas telling me i should pursue it cos i have the looks & personality 4 it, & by my reflection in the mirror! also, i have a great ego & thick skin - 2 prerequisites 4 showbiz. unfortunately there's about 3 billion other wannabes on the planet so i won't be burning my books anytime soon... but it looks like fun & i'd like 2 give it a go. any suggestions on how 2 get started? does amateur stuff get u any exposure?
anyone know how far away melville is from the city center? which is closer 2 the city - kalamunda or melville? (don't know south of the river well).
thanx kids
the daveaholic,
k. silverstone
anyone know how far away melville is from the city center? which is closer 2 the city - kalamunda or melville? (don't know south of the river well).
thanx kids
the daveaholic,
k. silverstone
Let the flames subside !!
Thu, 1 June 2000, 11:58 amWalter Plinge
Dear Kim,
You certianly have created a stir with your opinions on various issues. As I first read your reply to Gill's email offering you advice I knew you were bound to stir up the type of response that we see here.
I would like to make a few observations and perhaps offer you some advice, WITHOUT making it a flaming, and hopefully without receiving a 'bite me' response.
Firstly, as a confident dynamic young person stating their personal opinions, and broadening their horizons (for which I commend you) you need to be able to take criticism more gracefully. If you are going to make clearly controversial statements like "i think the people who spend 3 or 4 years "studying" acting r a little ridiculous... it's not rocket science. " you need to be able to take whatever response you get back (especially in a public forum like this) without telling the respondees to 'bite you' or dismissing their opinions with a 'whatever - who cares'. I don't feel that any of the responses were excessively harsh, but by responding as you did, you turn all reading these message against you (dangerous in Perth theatre circles). Try not to burn your bridges. You come over as naive, antagonistic, and someone that is likely to be 'hard to work with'. What is this going to do for you changes of getting involved ?
Many of the respondents to this site are experienced people dedicated to theatre. I would suggest you begin learning some HUMILITY. You need to acknowledge, that as a 2nd yr med student straight from high school, you are NOT an authority on the issues you are addressing. You have clearly stired some experienced people up with your opinions because they ARE controversial. Take their response as a message that - "Hey ... perhaps I'm not right in thinking that formal study of theatre is worth little and looks count for just about everything" The responses here are your first wake up call - and if you ignore the personal attacks (about your 4 - for and U - you etc.), you should be able to see that your opinions are not shared by those already successful in the industry.
As for your 'Med = real study, Drama = micky mouse' attitude ... well, that will get you in hot water with any intelliget person you try it on. It is a clear beakon saying to all who read your messages that you are young, and naive (which is fine, we all started at the same place, as long as you are open to learn)
I agree with you that some level of natural talent is essential for anyone who is serious about being successful in the industry, but I would also say that ... EVERYONE you see who is successfully earning a living in theatre/music theatre has combined their natural talent with years and years of experience (probably mostly amature, initially at least) and serious study, either personal or through an institution. I would argue that, in its own way, studying theatre is infinately more challenging than rocket science. This is because the study of theatre and acting involves not only historical knowledge/awareness and interpreative skills amoungst many other things, but also personal and emotional growth and awareness, which rocket science, medicine and other, highly paid, professions don't. I know plenty of doctors and lawyers etc. (who earn mega bucks) but are dreadfully emotionally immature. Just because they are in these professions does not afford them more legitimacy than other, more lowly paid forms of work.
@!#$ ... time to end the lecture ! To close, as Gill pointed out, NO ONE, not even those out there doing brilliantly in theatre currently, were drawn to it for monetary gain or indeed the thought to being a 'big celeb' one day. They slaved at crafting their skills because they love doing it, being on stage, being invovled.
Don't loose your verve and energy ... and keep stiring people up ... BUT ... know that you have much to learn ... that you loose no face in admitting your inexperienced ... be prepared for criticism, and as any intelligent performer does, learn what you can from others opinions ...
I am not the font of all knowledge, though I like to think I have something valuable to offer you.
David
letterman uberfan wrote:
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thanx 4 the info gillian. i'm kind of sceptical when it comes 2 performing arts schools i think it'd be great 2 learn the different aspects of performing 4 say, 6 months or so, but ultimately i suspect a natural talent 4 performing may have a bigger part 2 play. i think the people who spend 3 or 4 years "studying" acting r a little ridiculous... it's not rocket science.
anyway, i need 2 know where 2 look 4 auditions other than this website, the blue room notice board, & community newspapers.
thanx kids!
Letterman's heart surgeon,
Kim R. Silverstone
You certianly have created a stir with your opinions on various issues. As I first read your reply to Gill's email offering you advice I knew you were bound to stir up the type of response that we see here.
I would like to make a few observations and perhaps offer you some advice, WITHOUT making it a flaming, and hopefully without receiving a 'bite me' response.
Firstly, as a confident dynamic young person stating their personal opinions, and broadening their horizons (for which I commend you) you need to be able to take criticism more gracefully. If you are going to make clearly controversial statements like "i think the people who spend 3 or 4 years "studying" acting r a little ridiculous... it's not rocket science. " you need to be able to take whatever response you get back (especially in a public forum like this) without telling the respondees to 'bite you' or dismissing their opinions with a 'whatever - who cares'. I don't feel that any of the responses were excessively harsh, but by responding as you did, you turn all reading these message against you (dangerous in Perth theatre circles). Try not to burn your bridges. You come over as naive, antagonistic, and someone that is likely to be 'hard to work with'. What is this going to do for you changes of getting involved ?
Many of the respondents to this site are experienced people dedicated to theatre. I would suggest you begin learning some HUMILITY. You need to acknowledge, that as a 2nd yr med student straight from high school, you are NOT an authority on the issues you are addressing. You have clearly stired some experienced people up with your opinions because they ARE controversial. Take their response as a message that - "Hey ... perhaps I'm not right in thinking that formal study of theatre is worth little and looks count for just about everything" The responses here are your first wake up call - and if you ignore the personal attacks (about your 4 - for and U - you etc.), you should be able to see that your opinions are not shared by those already successful in the industry.
As for your 'Med = real study, Drama = micky mouse' attitude ... well, that will get you in hot water with any intelliget person you try it on. It is a clear beakon saying to all who read your messages that you are young, and naive (which is fine, we all started at the same place, as long as you are open to learn)
I agree with you that some level of natural talent is essential for anyone who is serious about being successful in the industry, but I would also say that ... EVERYONE you see who is successfully earning a living in theatre/music theatre has combined their natural talent with years and years of experience (probably mostly amature, initially at least) and serious study, either personal or through an institution. I would argue that, in its own way, studying theatre is infinately more challenging than rocket science. This is because the study of theatre and acting involves not only historical knowledge/awareness and interpreative skills amoungst many other things, but also personal and emotional growth and awareness, which rocket science, medicine and other, highly paid, professions don't. I know plenty of doctors and lawyers etc. (who earn mega bucks) but are dreadfully emotionally immature. Just because they are in these professions does not afford them more legitimacy than other, more lowly paid forms of work.
@!#$ ... time to end the lecture ! To close, as Gill pointed out, NO ONE, not even those out there doing brilliantly in theatre currently, were drawn to it for monetary gain or indeed the thought to being a 'big celeb' one day. They slaved at crafting their skills because they love doing it, being on stage, being invovled.
Don't loose your verve and energy ... and keep stiring people up ... BUT ... know that you have much to learn ... that you loose no face in admitting your inexperienced ... be prepared for criticism, and as any intelligent performer does, learn what you can from others opinions ...
I am not the font of all knowledge, though I like to think I have something valuable to offer you.
David
letterman uberfan wrote:
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thanx 4 the info gillian. i'm kind of sceptical when it comes 2 performing arts schools i think it'd be great 2 learn the different aspects of performing 4 say, 6 months or so, but ultimately i suspect a natural talent 4 performing may have a bigger part 2 play. i think the people who spend 3 or 4 years "studying" acting r a little ridiculous... it's not rocket science.
anyway, i need 2 know where 2 look 4 auditions other than this website, the blue room notice board, & community newspapers.
thanx kids!
Letterman's heart surgeon,
Kim R. Silverstone
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