Finleys
Sun, 23 Jan 2005, 08:03 pmWalter Plinge6 posts in thread
Finleys
Sun, 23 Jan 2005, 08:03 pmI find it very strange that the Finley Best Director award went to a play in which one of four adjudicators participated. If an adjudicator cannot direct a play, how can they be in one ???
This comment is made remembering that at the beginning of the year it was promised that all four adjudicators would see each play, so how can you objectively watch a play while you are in it!
Walter PlingeSun, 23 Jan 2005, 08:03 pm
I find it very strange that the Finley Best Director award went to a play in which one of four adjudicators participated. If an adjudicator cannot direct a play, how can they be in one ???
This comment is made remembering that at the beginning of the year it was promised that all four adjudicators would see each play, so how can you objectively watch a play while you are in it!
Walter PlingeSun, 23 Jan 2005, 08:39 pm
Re: Finleys
Dear Cynic
An appropriate name.
At the beginning of the year , it was stated that all four adjudicators would try to see every play. If that was not possible, then it was promised that at least three of the four would see every play. This did happen.
It was also stated that if an adjudicator was in a play, that adjudicator would be automatically disqualified for any individual award, however the play could still be entered . It would surely be unfair to penalise all the other people involved in the production , simply because it had one of the adjudicators in it.
The criteria that we used to judge best director came straight from the Professional theatre equity judging system. It seems to work very nicely for them and , yes, they often have their own adjudicators in plays.
Thank you for the feedback.
If you wish to take this up with the ITA committee, I am sure that they would be delighted to listen to you.
Kerri
An appropriate name.
At the beginning of the year , it was stated that all four adjudicators would try to see every play. If that was not possible, then it was promised that at least three of the four would see every play. This did happen.
It was also stated that if an adjudicator was in a play, that adjudicator would be automatically disqualified for any individual award, however the play could still be entered . It would surely be unfair to penalise all the other people involved in the production , simply because it had one of the adjudicators in it.
The criteria that we used to judge best director came straight from the Professional theatre equity judging system. It seems to work very nicely for them and , yes, they often have their own adjudicators in plays.
Thank you for the feedback.
If you wish to take this up with the ITA committee, I am sure that they would be delighted to listen to you.
Kerri
Walter PlingeSun, 23 Jan 2005, 09:56 pm
Re: Finleys
The play in question was on in February - how early in the year is that?
Walter PlingeSun, 23 Jan 2005, 10:05 pm
Re: Finleys
Dear Cynic
In answer to your question, February is the second month of the year.
It is in fact , pretty early in the year, and has only one month before it.
Thank you for the question.
In answer to your question, February is the second month of the year.
It is in fact , pretty early in the year, and has only one month before it.
Thank you for the question.
crgwllmsMon, 24 Jan 2005, 01:12 am
Re: taking Cynic seriously
Cynic wrote:
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> I find it very strange that the Finley Best Director award
> went to a play in which one of four adjudicators
> participated. If an adjudicator cannot direct a play, how can
> they be in one ???
>
> This comment is made remembering that at the beginning of the
> year it was promised that all four adjudicators would see
> each play, so how can you objectively watch a play while you
> are in it!
Perhaps Cynic and the ITA would consider this thought: I reckon there is NO BETTER place to objectively judge the best director than from within the play itself!
Now I'm sure the ITA adjudicators got paranoid about accusations of favoritism, and so when it came time to tally their preferences they probably didn't let the adjudicator who participated have any votes count in regard to the play they were in.
I think this is possibly a mistake. Who better to know whether the director was good at getting their vision across, at working with actors, at organising the rehearsal process and at adapting to changes in a collaborative creative process, than an actual participant who was being directed by them?
Without this inside information, all the adjudicators have to go by is viewing the end product - how can you be certain that what you see on a given night is the director's input, and not the creation of willful actors taking things into their own hands?
My suggestion, in the interest of complete objectivity in future Finley Awards, is that an adjudicator should participate in EVERY production, to properly witness the director's process. Preferably all four (or at least three) adjudicators in each play, to make it completely fair.
Cheers
Craig
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> I find it very strange that the Finley Best Director award
> went to a play in which one of four adjudicators
> participated. If an adjudicator cannot direct a play, how can
> they be in one ???
>
> This comment is made remembering that at the beginning of the
> year it was promised that all four adjudicators would see
> each play, so how can you objectively watch a play while you
> are in it!
Perhaps Cynic and the ITA would consider this thought: I reckon there is NO BETTER place to objectively judge the best director than from within the play itself!
Now I'm sure the ITA adjudicators got paranoid about accusations of favoritism, and so when it came time to tally their preferences they probably didn't let the adjudicator who participated have any votes count in regard to the play they were in.
I think this is possibly a mistake. Who better to know whether the director was good at getting their vision across, at working with actors, at organising the rehearsal process and at adapting to changes in a collaborative creative process, than an actual participant who was being directed by them?
Without this inside information, all the adjudicators have to go by is viewing the end product - how can you be certain that what you see on a given night is the director's input, and not the creation of willful actors taking things into their own hands?
My suggestion, in the interest of complete objectivity in future Finley Awards, is that an adjudicator should participate in EVERY production, to properly witness the director's process. Preferably all four (or at least three) adjudicators in each play, to make it completely fair.
Cheers
Craig
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