rejection
Sun, 18 Apr 2004, 01:12 pmCharisse G8 posts in thread
rejection
Sun, 18 Apr 2004, 01:12 pmI am awaiting a call of rejection, from a musical I have been dying to get into. Any ideas as to how to accept rejection graciously??
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Charisse GSun, 18 Apr 2004, 01:12 pm
I am awaiting a call of rejection, from a musical I have been dying to get into. Any ideas as to how to accept rejection graciously??
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crgwllmsSun, 18 Apr 2004, 11:58 pm
Acceptance
Charisse wrote:
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> I am awaiting a call of rejection, from a musical I have been
> dying to get into. Any ideas as to how to accept rejection
> graciously??
You can be gracious or ungracious....but why even see it as rejection?
Auditioning is not the same as passing a test, where everyone at a certain level is accepted and the rest are rejected...it's not a true measure of your ability, because for every role there can be only one who 'passes', no matter how good the rest are. And that can be dependent on so many factors that it's all a bit ridiculous to compare results between auditionees or even between yourself and your last audition.
A better way to view auditions is as a chance to show them what you can do. You're not competing, you're not asking for acceptance, and so you can't be rejected. You're showing what you're capable of at this present moment. Sometimes, this will result in being asked to play a role. Quite often (for me, at least; and I hear it's happened to others) the role you are asked to play may not be the one you auditioned for, or even the same play...or even the same year! But as a result of showing someone what I was capable of once, I was offered work somewhere down the line. If you get to audition for the same casting agent/director, but for a different role, you may find it's an opportunity to show them something different...and perhaps that difference will make an impression.
If you still feel you need to see it as 'rejection' and want to learn to accept it, you need to practise it....go for more auditions and get 'rejected' more often. It'll put it all in perspective, and teach you more things you can then demonstrate in each subsequent audition. The more you learn, the better and more fun your auditions will be...and then you'll find good things will come of them.
Cheers,
Craig
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> I am awaiting a call of rejection, from a musical I have been
> dying to get into. Any ideas as to how to accept rejection
> graciously??
You can be gracious or ungracious....but why even see it as rejection?
Auditioning is not the same as passing a test, where everyone at a certain level is accepted and the rest are rejected...it's not a true measure of your ability, because for every role there can be only one who 'passes', no matter how good the rest are. And that can be dependent on so many factors that it's all a bit ridiculous to compare results between auditionees or even between yourself and your last audition.
A better way to view auditions is as a chance to show them what you can do. You're not competing, you're not asking for acceptance, and so you can't be rejected. You're showing what you're capable of at this present moment. Sometimes, this will result in being asked to play a role. Quite often (for me, at least; and I hear it's happened to others) the role you are asked to play may not be the one you auditioned for, or even the same play...or even the same year! But as a result of showing someone what I was capable of once, I was offered work somewhere down the line. If you get to audition for the same casting agent/director, but for a different role, you may find it's an opportunity to show them something different...and perhaps that difference will make an impression.
If you still feel you need to see it as 'rejection' and want to learn to accept it, you need to practise it....go for more auditions and get 'rejected' more often. It'll put it all in perspective, and teach you more things you can then demonstrate in each subsequent audition. The more you learn, the better and more fun your auditions will be...and then you'll find good things will come of them.
Cheers,
Craig
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Charisse GMon, 19 Apr 2004, 07:53 am
Re: Acceptance
Thanks Craig!
No really, thanks that was incredibly insighful and useful info!
I even printed it out hehehehe ;)
It also has depend on what the leading man/lady look like because the cast are usually featured around them & and seeing majority of auditionee's were all about 10 years older than me, i'm not liking my chances.
That's the reason for my doubt!
But it will be useful, rejection can only make you a stronger performer!
Thanks heaps!!!
Charisse xoxoxoxox
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No really, thanks that was incredibly insighful and useful info!
I even printed it out hehehehe ;)
It also has depend on what the leading man/lady look like because the cast are usually featured around them & and seeing majority of auditionee's were all about 10 years older than me, i'm not liking my chances.
That's the reason for my doubt!
But it will be useful, rejection can only make you a stronger performer!
Thanks heaps!!!
Charisse xoxoxoxox
_+_+_+_+_Perform how you do in your head_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_
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AuctorMon, 19 Apr 2004, 11:07 am
Re: Acceptance
crgwllms wrote:
> Auditioning is not the same as passing a test, where everyone
> at a certain level is accepted and the rest are
> rejected....
Just to disagree with you slightly, Craig, there is one element of an audition that is a test: I suppose you could call it your level of professionalism. Are you there on time? Do you know the lines? Are you ready? As a producer and director I regularly see actors that turn up 30mins or more late without warning, others simply don't show at all or clearly don't know their lines and try to wing it. It's an indicator of what you'll be like to work with. I really hate working with people that don't give their all. My job just becomes so much harder and as a result I tend not to cast those that fail that test.
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> Auditioning is not the same as passing a test, where everyone
> at a certain level is accepted and the rest are
> rejected....
Just to disagree with you slightly, Craig, there is one element of an audition that is a test: I suppose you could call it your level of professionalism. Are you there on time? Do you know the lines? Are you ready? As a producer and director I regularly see actors that turn up 30mins or more late without warning, others simply don't show at all or clearly don't know their lines and try to wing it. It's an indicator of what you'll be like to work with. I really hate working with people that don't give their all. My job just becomes so much harder and as a result I tend not to cast those that fail that test.
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crgwllmsMon, 19 Apr 2004, 08:02 pm
Re: I'll Accept that
Auctor wrote:
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> Just to disagree with you slightly, Craig, there is one
> element of an audition that is a test: I suppose you could
> call it your level of professionalism. Are you there on
> time? Do you know the lines? Are you ready? As a producer
> and director I regularly see actors that turn up 30mins or
> more late without warning, others simply don't show at all or
> clearly don't know their lines and try to wing it. It's an
> indicator of what you'll be like to work with. I really hate
> working with people that don't give their all. My job just
> becomes so much harder and as a result I tend not to cast
> those that fail that test.
>
Thanks Auctor, yes, that's very true....although it's what I meant by being 'at a certain level'.
In the light of your comments, there are lots of ways you can 'fail'. I'd assume if you're serious, you at least lift your game to that level...but I guess many don't. All the better for those of us who do!
Then after that, there are still many who will 'pass', and deliver interesting, entertaining auditions. Unfortunately, there are still a limited number of jobs to be offered, but if you can come away from an audition knowing you did your best and 'passed', then you can be content.
Luck and karma will take care of the rest.
Cheers,
Craig
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> Just to disagree with you slightly, Craig, there is one
> element of an audition that is a test: I suppose you could
> call it your level of professionalism. Are you there on
> time? Do you know the lines? Are you ready? As a producer
> and director I regularly see actors that turn up 30mins or
> more late without warning, others simply don't show at all or
> clearly don't know their lines and try to wing it. It's an
> indicator of what you'll be like to work with. I really hate
> working with people that don't give their all. My job just
> becomes so much harder and as a result I tend not to cast
> those that fail that test.
>
Thanks Auctor, yes, that's very true....although it's what I meant by being 'at a certain level'.
In the light of your comments, there are lots of ways you can 'fail'. I'd assume if you're serious, you at least lift your game to that level...but I guess many don't. All the better for those of us who do!
Then after that, there are still many who will 'pass', and deliver interesting, entertaining auditions. Unfortunately, there are still a limited number of jobs to be offered, but if you can come away from an audition knowing you did your best and 'passed', then you can be content.
Luck and karma will take care of the rest.
Cheers,
Craig
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crgwllmsMon, 19 Apr 2004, 08:11 pm
Re: Acceptional
Charisse wrote:
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> Thanks Craig!
> No really, thanks that was incredibly insighful and useful
> info!
> I even printed it out hehehehe ;)
You're welcome.
Someday I ought to go back and collect some of the posts and advice I've written and publish them and make a lot of money from them...but for the time being and the presently conceivable future they're all free for anyone to read what they feel's worth taking.
Cheers,
Craig
(Also, it would cause me too much of a headache to attempt to edit out all the dumb things I've said...)
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> Thanks Craig!
> No really, thanks that was incredibly insighful and useful
> info!
> I even printed it out hehehehe ;)
You're welcome.
Someday I ought to go back and collect some of the posts and advice I've written and publish them and make a lot of money from them...but for the time being and the presently conceivable future they're all free for anyone to read what they feel's worth taking.
Cheers,
Craig
(Also, it would cause me too much of a headache to attempt to edit out all the dumb things I've said...)
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AuctorMon, 19 Apr 2004, 11:32 pm
Re: I'll Accept that
crgwllms wrote:
> Luck and karma will take care of the rest.
I remember reading that ' the only way to fail in Hollywwod was to give up.' A healthy dose of persistence will get you most places. Don't get this part, get the next one tomorrow, or the one on Friday or the three next week - or hey, I'll write, produce and direct my own damn part. There's more than one way to skin a rabbit =).
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> Luck and karma will take care of the rest.
I remember reading that ' the only way to fail in Hollywwod was to give up.' A healthy dose of persistence will get you most places. Don't get this part, get the next one tomorrow, or the one on Friday or the three next week - or hey, I'll write, produce and direct my own damn part. There's more than one way to skin a rabbit =).
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jassepWed, 21 Apr 2004, 10:22 am
Re: Acceptional
You realise, Craig, that there's probably the basis of a great book (or subscription newsletter) in all your posts... I think the idea of collecting them together and fleshing out is a excellent one!
Jason
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