Gender Poll
Wed, 27 Aug 2003, 08:43 amGreg Ross12 posts in thread
Gender Poll
Wed, 27 Aug 2003, 08:43 amCraig wonders whether he should add “Other” to the new poll. Until recently, I would have said that he should, however, the recent Old Mill Theatre production of "Breaker Morant" did, we suspect, set some sort of a theatrical record ... 19 blokes ... and all of them straight!
Although I must admit, I was beginning to find one of the cast rather attractive, but she turned out to be the only bird in the cast and reckoned she was straight as well.
For those who worry about this heterosexual imbalance, there may be some comfort in the fact that to a man, the blokes all admitted to being lesbians trapped in male bodies.
All Good Things
Greg Ross
Although I must admit, I was beginning to find one of the cast rather attractive, but she turned out to be the only bird in the cast and reckoned she was straight as well.
For those who worry about this heterosexual imbalance, there may be some comfort in the fact that to a man, the blokes all admitted to being lesbians trapped in male bodies.
All Good Things
Greg Ross
Greg RossWed, 27 Aug 2003, 08:43 am
Craig wonders whether he should add “Other” to the new poll. Until recently, I would have said that he should, however, the recent Old Mill Theatre production of "Breaker Morant" did, we suspect, set some sort of a theatrical record ... 19 blokes ... and all of them straight!
Although I must admit, I was beginning to find one of the cast rather attractive, but she turned out to be the only bird in the cast and reckoned she was straight as well.
For those who worry about this heterosexual imbalance, there may be some comfort in the fact that to a man, the blokes all admitted to being lesbians trapped in male bodies.
All Good Things
Greg Ross
Although I must admit, I was beginning to find one of the cast rather attractive, but she turned out to be the only bird in the cast and reckoned she was straight as well.
For those who worry about this heterosexual imbalance, there may be some comfort in the fact that to a man, the blokes all admitted to being lesbians trapped in male bodies.
All Good Things
Greg Ross
Leah MaherWed, 27 Aug 2003, 09:30 am
Re: Gender Poll
This poll may be a little skewed in much the same way the last one was. In the same way that people of a certain generation are not as adept with the pooter as others, people of a certain gender have much more on their plates than being able to visit this site every five minuets.
Us "birds" (thanks Greg) are actually a little occupied right now with furthering our careers, whilst raising your bloody kids, whilst keeping the house clean and food on the table, whilst looking after your emotional wellbeing and those of our other friends and family, whilst putting ourselves to agony and expense to look good for you, whilst making sure the drycleaning gets picked up and the bills are paid on time, whilst auditioning our little hearts out for the one female part in a twenty part play for some idiot male director!!!
(By "us 'birds'" I do not of course include myself. I do not do any of the above things and therefore do have time to visit this site an uncool number of times a week. I live in constant admiration of the majority of modern women who DO do all of the above. But I'm not worried. I know I'll make someone a wonderful ex-wife one day.)
Us "birds" (thanks Greg) are actually a little occupied right now with furthering our careers, whilst raising your bloody kids, whilst keeping the house clean and food on the table, whilst looking after your emotional wellbeing and those of our other friends and family, whilst putting ourselves to agony and expense to look good for you, whilst making sure the drycleaning gets picked up and the bills are paid on time, whilst auditioning our little hearts out for the one female part in a twenty part play for some idiot male director!!!
(By "us 'birds'" I do not of course include myself. I do not do any of the above things and therefore do have time to visit this site an uncool number of times a week. I live in constant admiration of the majority of modern women who DO do all of the above. But I'm not worried. I know I'll make someone a wonderful ex-wife one day.)
tonyWed, 27 Aug 2003, 12:25 pm
Re: Gender Poll
Leah M wrote:
"I know I'll make someone a wonderful ex-wife one day."
You mean one of those wonderful ex-wives that take the house, the furniture and the shirt of a man's back!
crgwllmsWed, 27 Aug 2003, 02:46 pm
Re: Items on the, uh, gender
Tony wrote:
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> You mean one of those wonderful ex-wives that take the house,
> the furniture and the shirt off a man's back!
I would think it would be a relief to at least get the house and the furniture off your back...a chance to stand up and straighten that spine.
Leah wrote:
>people of a certain gender have much more on their plates than being able to visit this site every five minuets.
How many minuets do you dance per minute?
Interesting that issues of gender straightaway bring up role stereotyping.... not that I'm contesting Leah's observation which may well be very accurate; but it does tend to generalize.
Speaking as someone who does all his own cooking, cleaning, washing, bill paying, etc... my participation on this site is not a function of how many domestic duties I have - it's a product of how I choose to spend my leisure/entertainment hours; multiplied by my interest in local theatre and related discussions. Also throw in that Acting is my only real occupation and so my hours are often rather more flexible (albeit unsocial).
I imagine the nature of a website devoted to theatre is going to attract many with a similar situation...so I find Leah's example more valuable for its humorous perspective than for realistically portraying the gender roles of visitors to this site.
However, stereotypes are what they are because they often reflect a high proportion of the 'truth', or our beliefs about it....
Cheers
Craig
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> You mean one of those wonderful ex-wives that take the house,
> the furniture and the shirt off a man's back!
I would think it would be a relief to at least get the house and the furniture off your back...a chance to stand up and straighten that spine.
Leah wrote:
>people of a certain gender have much more on their plates than being able to visit this site every five minuets.
How many minuets do you dance per minute?
Interesting that issues of gender straightaway bring up role stereotyping.... not that I'm contesting Leah's observation which may well be very accurate; but it does tend to generalize.
Speaking as someone who does all his own cooking, cleaning, washing, bill paying, etc... my participation on this site is not a function of how many domestic duties I have - it's a product of how I choose to spend my leisure/entertainment hours; multiplied by my interest in local theatre and related discussions. Also throw in that Acting is my only real occupation and so my hours are often rather more flexible (albeit unsocial).
I imagine the nature of a website devoted to theatre is going to attract many with a similar situation...so I find Leah's example more valuable for its humorous perspective than for realistically portraying the gender roles of visitors to this site.
However, stereotypes are what they are because they often reflect a high proportion of the 'truth', or our beliefs about it....
Cheers
Craig
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Leah MaherWed, 27 Aug 2003, 03:15 pm
Re: Communication and Gender
Thank you that incredibly carefully worded comment on my post Craig. You are right about the comic effect of my post being more valuable that it's social comment. I just re-read it and realise I had actually left my point out, or not made it very directly. So here it is again for those who missed it;
Most of the people who contribute to discussions on this website are men. I'm looking at the last few posts on the Green Room Gossip forum and about two thirds of the names are male. You look back at any of the long indepth discussions over the past few month and almost all those contributing their views are male.
We know for a fact that Community theatre is saturated with women. We know that men are as rare as hens teeth and that large casts of men are almost impossible to find. It may even be that the current poll finds that more women than men are visiting this site.
Why then, are the actual discussions dominated (in terms of numbers) by the boys?
PS. Oh and Tony, your comment about my "taking" the house, the furniture and some poor guys shirt does presuppose that they weren't all mine to start with. Something to think about.
Most of the people who contribute to discussions on this website are men. I'm looking at the last few posts on the Green Room Gossip forum and about two thirds of the names are male. You look back at any of the long indepth discussions over the past few month and almost all those contributing their views are male.
We know for a fact that Community theatre is saturated with women. We know that men are as rare as hens teeth and that large casts of men are almost impossible to find. It may even be that the current poll finds that more women than men are visiting this site.
Why then, are the actual discussions dominated (in terms of numbers) by the boys?
PS. Oh and Tony, your comment about my "taking" the house, the furniture and some poor guys shirt does presuppose that they weren't all mine to start with. Something to think about.
Walter PlingeWed, 27 Aug 2003, 04:22 pm
Re: Gender Poll
Greg Ross wrote:
> Craig wonders whether he should add “Other” to the new poll.
> Until recently, I would have said that he should, however,
> the recent Old Mill Theatre production of "Breaker Morant"
> did, we suspect, set some sort of a theatrical record ... 19
> blokes ... and all of them straight!
Until recently, Greg, I too would have suggested that he should have added "other". But then, I look back at the shows I've done in the last couple of years, and at how many of them have I been the show's "Token Poof".
Maybe I've just been hanging out at the wrong theatres...
And to break the stereotypes even further...
Of those shows where I have been "Token", for most of them I have been one of, if not THE, blokiest guys in the show.
> Craig wonders whether he should add “Other” to the new poll.
> Until recently, I would have said that he should, however,
> the recent Old Mill Theatre production of "Breaker Morant"
> did, we suspect, set some sort of a theatrical record ... 19
> blokes ... and all of them straight!
Until recently, Greg, I too would have suggested that he should have added "other". But then, I look back at the shows I've done in the last couple of years, and at how many of them have I been the show's "Token Poof".
And to break the stereotypes even further...
Of those shows where I have been "Token", for most of them I have been one of, if not THE, blokiest guys in the show.
Walter PlingeThu, 28 Aug 2003, 08:59 am
Re: Gender Poll
Just adding my 2 bobs worth to all the above:-
1) To Greg, which cast member was the bird? Surely you are not referring to the one cast member who managed to get over the road to the Windsor before the play actually finished and then stumbled back for the bow!
2) If you have so much spare time Leah, spend some of it shaving your legs. And stop using reviews to shamelessly flirt with directors. Hussy!
3) Is there some other sort of ex-wife Tony?
4) Shame on you crg for noticing such a minute spelling error.
5) Blokey?
Luv yez all,
Dean
1) To Greg, which cast member was the bird? Surely you are not referring to the one cast member who managed to get over the road to the Windsor before the play actually finished and then stumbled back for the bow!
2) If you have so much spare time Leah, spend some of it shaving your legs. And stop using reviews to shamelessly flirt with directors. Hussy!
3) Is there some other sort of ex-wife Tony?
4) Shame on you crg for noticing such a minute spelling error.
5) Blokey?
Luv yez all,
Dean
Walter PlingeThu, 28 Aug 2003, 09:13 am
Re: Blokey...
Blokey...
As in, like a 'bloke'
Drinks either Beer, Bourbon or Bundy.
Loves sport (in my case REAL football, ie soccer) and is an absolute hooligan while watching it.
Drives a ute.
If he owns a dog its gonna be some kind of working dog.
Yells incredibly dodgy comments out of car windows.
You get the picture?
The antithesis of the 'metrosexual' without being a chauvinist.
As in, like a 'bloke'
Drinks either Beer, Bourbon or Bundy.
Loves sport (in my case REAL football, ie soccer) and is an absolute hooligan while watching it.
Drives a ute.
If he owns a dog its gonna be some kind of working dog.
Yells incredibly dodgy comments out of car windows.
You get the picture?
The antithesis of the 'metrosexual' without being a chauvinist.
BarbZThu, 28 Aug 2003, 12:05 pm
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FRIDAY 5 Sept at Princess May Theatre, Cantonment/Parry Sts, Fremantle
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Time at all venues is 8pm.
Prices: waged $12 unwaged $10
Bookings:
Phone 08 9379 3531
email
See you all there ..
BarbZ
** See Stinger's review
Written by Australian playwright Chris Dickins, directed by Grant Malcolm & starring Peter Fry, Fred Lawson, Carmelo Lenzo & Gary Williams, THE MEN is
"a roller coaster ride of mateship, attitude, wit wisdom & pathos ... a devastating look from the inside at what's happening in the realms & reality of blokedom".
Preview:
FRIDAY 29 August at Sun Moon Resort, 200 Scarborough Beach Rd, Scarborough
*** Save $2 per ticket on the preview night only by mentioning "Theatre Australia" when you book***
Opening Night:
SUNDAY 31 August at Irish Club, 61 Townshend Rd, Subiaco
Then:
TUESDAY 2 Sept at Rockingham Theatre, Atttwood Way, Rockingham
WEDNESDAY 3 Sept at Kalamunda Performing Arts Centre, Canning/Recreation Rds, Kalamunda
FRIDAY 5 Sept at Princess May Theatre, Cantonment/Parry Sts, Fremantle
SATURDAY 6 Sept at Sun Moon Resort, 200 Scarborough Beach rd, Scarborough
Time at all venues is 8pm.
Prices: waged $12 unwaged $10
Bookings:
Phone 08 9379 3531
See you all there ..
BarbZ
NormaThu, 28 Aug 2003, 12:06 pm
Re: Communication and Gender
Why are there more men posting than women?
Easy - we've got more to do with our lives than than stare all the time at a computer screen.
Thou tottering fool-born maggot-pie!
Easy - we've got more to do with our lives than than stare all the time at a computer screen.
Thou tottering fool-born maggot-pie!
Walter PlingeThu, 28 Aug 2003, 02:29 pm
Re: Blokey...
Hi Paul
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Regards,
your MATE, mate
By your description of Blokey I'm in the drivers seat (Ute) come and see The Men Their's downsizing, debt dicks and sperm all in one show, the ultimate bloke
Regards,
your MATE, mate
psycheTue, 5 Oct 2004, 09:28 am
Re: Gender Poll
go with who and what you are not what the rest of the world says