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Is this just local or .....?

Tue, 23 Mar 2010, 11:03 am
Rapunzel15 posts in thread
I have noticed, over the past few months, what might be a local phenomenon. I wonder if it is not just confined to South Australia? I fear for the future... Our theatre companies are in peril. There seem to be fewer and fewer people willing to do the hard work to actually run them. This isn't new but I'm starting to wonder if it's becoming a plague or pandemic. A recent post by a well established and long running company on our SA website is an example, see the link below. http://www.theatreguide.com.au/current_site/notices/classifieds.php Now there will always be people who are very earnest and willing but who shouldn't be let near anything resembling a committee or other organisation because they haven't a clue and wreak unwitting damage. Then there are people who shy away nervously at the thought of joining a committee, it makes them quake with fear. Others flit from company to company "I'm only interested in acting darling". There are others who become excellent apprentices and rapidly become mainstays. There are the tireless workhorses who keep the flipping thing going regardless...and these are the ones who are dying out. Which sometimes means the company will die too. Which means there will be less companies for the "flitters" to perform for, with, whatever... I'm interested, is this a local disease, a theatrical form of H1N1 striking the hard workers of theatre companies, or is it Australia wide?

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RapunzelTue, 23 Mar 2010, 11:03 am
I have noticed, over the past few months, what might be a local phenomenon. I wonder if it is not just confined to South Australia? I fear for the future... Our theatre companies are in peril. There seem to be fewer and fewer people willing to do the hard work to actually run them. This isn't new but I'm starting to wonder if it's becoming a plague or pandemic. A recent post by a well established and long running company on our SA website is an example, see the link below. http://www.theatreguide.com.au/current_site/notices/classifieds.php Now there will always be people who are very earnest and willing but who shouldn't be let near anything resembling a committee or other organisation because they haven't a clue and wreak unwitting damage. Then there are people who shy away nervously at the thought of joining a committee, it makes them quake with fear. Others flit from company to company "I'm only interested in acting darling". There are others who become excellent apprentices and rapidly become mainstays. There are the tireless workhorses who keep the flipping thing going regardless...and these are the ones who are dying out. Which sometimes means the company will die too. Which means there will be less companies for the "flitters" to perform for, with, whatever... I'm interested, is this a local disease, a theatrical form of H1N1 striking the hard workers of theatre companies, or is it Australia wide?
Walter PlingeTue, 23 Mar 2010, 11:32 am

Same Old

Hi Rapunzel, Years ago I spent many a good year, and time, in the amateur theatre scene. I did my time in that realm as an actor, front of house person, ticket secretary, set builder, committee person, general dog's body and 'person who gets the shitty job of phoning members to pressure/entice them in to helping out'. I still have many friends who tred the amateur boards and take their turn passing out the sherry and sandwiches front of house! Yes, any hobby or enthusiast group runs on the sweat and man hours of volunteers. In an ideal world, every person who joins an association or club would put in their fair share, take their turn on committee, help out and share the drudge as well as the glory. However, as frustrating as it is, I came to realise that everyone has different reasons for doing amateur theatre, different skills to offer and varying personal lives which may influence their interest or availability to contribute. You would no sooner force an unwilling person on to a committee than you would force them on to the stage. A great many actors also do several shows a year with differing companies. To expect someone to turn up to 'take their turn' on a set build or FOH for a season 9 months after their show finished for a company they had a 1 season relationship with is, I think, unrealistic now. As the person in charge of recruiting helpers it is very frustrating to get knock backs from previous cast members when you desperately need bodies to help out. But, I believe that we do need to respect a person's decision to just want to be an actor, FOH manager or rehearsal helper, whatever. Regardless of the group, club or hobby involved there will always be shortfalls in committee members, general helpers and BTS people. Everyone who joins a hobby club has a life, family, work and a personal life demanding their time and emotional energy. As much as we might like others to feel as attached and passionate about the theatre company as we do, the fact is not everyone can/will be. It's just the way it is and any person who's ever been part of a hobby club of ANY sort will most likely have a similar story to tell. Tulipa.
jamesgyoreTue, 23 Mar 2010, 05:00 pm

Re: Tulipas' reply

A well thought out reply, Tulipa. I would only add that I too have found similar challenges in video productions rather than theatre productions. I would contribute that I have had quite a bit of success with recruiting TAFE students keen to have recognition of prior learning and work experience that satisfies RTO assessors for particular modules that will fast-track their qualifications. In my case, I'm qualified in the field of workplace training and assessment, so I'm obviously in a position to offer a credible assessment of competency for these people. I would suggest anyone responsible for filling out roles to consider this qualification to help them populate roles that might be otherwise hard to fill. In my experience, a good reference and a fast ticket through a TAFE module is a very convenient way to get the people you need at a price you can afford.
mike raineTue, 23 Mar 2010, 07:40 pm

competing demands on time

I suspect amateur theatre experiences the same problems that any community association does. For example, local football clubs seem to have a tireless, but overworked core who do everything year after year, while players come and go. This core, like the core that exists in an amateur theatre group, wishes it would be otherwise; that more would hang around so the load could be spread around a bit. But it never happens. This is not a new phenomenum, because it always seems to have been this way. However, I expect that over the last couple of decades it has become more severe; there are so many other pursuits that keep people away (Wii, playstations, computer games, facebook spring to mind). The vicarious thrill of watching Australian Idol seems to be more compulsive than actually performing yourself. Attracting new young blood becomes more difficult. But attracting (or retaining) 'old blood' is just as problematic. Partly this is related to demographics (with an aging population, the old stagers are 'retiring', and there aren't the people to take their places). Partly this is related to the legislative environment. With an increasingly risk-averse society, and its consequence, a requirement to comply with the bureaucratic framework that surrounds amateur activities, what would once be regarded as a pleasant hobby is becoming as onerous as a demanding job, and people are less willing to do both. An illustration: For many years Huon Valley Theatre has been part of the old "Adopt a Highway" program, and each year HVT members worked along a particular stretch of road and picked up rubbish. These days, this can't be done unless qualified people are there to put up road signs, qualified people are there to supervise the clean-up, we sign forms saying that we accept the risk, we operate only on the side of the road facing oncoming traffic, we must wear long sleeves . . . and so on . . . you get the picture. This means that what was done once for fun and for community spirit is now a bureaucratic chore . . . and the appeal, the interest and the pleasure is gone. Someone said to me, "you can forget about global financial crisis, you can forget about global warming. What's killing this country is OHAS compliance." However, HVT still prospers. We recognise the threats to HVT viability, and deal with them as best as we can. But importantly, we are working hard to make our presence felt within the community, involving ourselves in as many community activities as we can manage. We hope by doing this that we will continue to secure our lifeblood: participants and patrons, despite the other attractions that might lure them away from theatre. In the past, we could easily have been regarded as 'elitist' or 'exclusive' (whether those tags were justified or not). We hope that we are becoming overtly more inclusive and accessible.
Chris BeddingThu, 25 Mar 2010, 01:59 am

A few thoughts

I agree that other community organisations have similar issues. This is partly for sociological reasons, I suspect.

For example, a community theatre with which I had some involvement for a couple of years used to have 'sewing sessions' one afternoon a week in which teams of women would show up and sew costumes. They would happily produce hundreds of costumes for a single show - all of which were still in the wardrobe some thirty years later. Likewise, another CT group with which I was involved used to have a volunteer orchestra that rehearsed every week of the year. As time went by, it became impossible to continue with a volunteer orchestra in the pit and there was resentment when some co-opted players were paid.

I believe these two examples are indicative of some shifting social realities. Firstly, women are more actively engaged in the paid workforce and are therefore not available for the unpaid workforce. Secondly, almost all skill development is predicated on it having a monetary value and there is an unspoken and unquestioned expectation that no skill should be used without personal gain. Thirdly, in a world full of status anxiety there is little tolerance for anything that is not 'excellent' or 'the best'.

Now, one could sigh and reminisce about the good old days, or learn to work with the world as it is. If there is no longer a large unpaid workforce to exploit, how can a paid workforce be used to best effect? If skills are not used without personal gain, how can the benefits of community theatre participation be 'sold' to a wider audience? And if people want to see, support and participate in 'the best', how can we provide these opportunities?

My suggestions would include:
1. Community Theatre Companies pooling their resources to commission a designer to create excellent set, costumes etc. for a particular musical then producing the same 'look' production in a range of locations with local talent. It might mean six companies contributing $10K and three people each - with a spectacular result both in the quality of resources and the training received by the personnel.
2. Partnering with the Volunteering Peak Bodies to come up with recruitment strategies which entice skilled professionals into theatre. For example, to take the example above, a group of Marketing students might welcome the opportunity to design and implement a comprehensive marketing campaign. Likewise accountants or safety people or whatever.
3. Combine the management of some companies. This is politically charged - but a formal, structural connection which combined the human and physical resources of a few companies and helpe relieve the pressure.
4. Have committee members engage in governance training at the Company's expense. Many of the problems in Community Theatre governance could be resolved if committee members understood their role. Social Services peak bodies provide this kind of training regularly at reasonable cost.
4. Appoint Producers for every production! (This is a particular bugbear of mine) The Producer is one person who oversees every aspect of the production and is a different person to the Director. They have a team to whom they delegate and a committee to which they are accountable. They are the keepers of the show's and the Company's vision and make sure all the needs are balanced. This would go a long way towards streamlining authority and accountability.

Those are my thoughts.

SkybeThu, 25 Mar 2010, 08:00 am

Flog Em!

As a younger person in community theatre I find it highly frustrating when others don't want to do the hard yard and 'hang out with the oldies' on the committee. I feel I have done my fair share of backstage, front of house, bar, committee duties, etc etc and I'm willing to keep at it - however - not if I'm going to be flogged to death. When a new person is willing to be part of the support crew, welcome them in slowly. Don't use and abuse them. Don't dump all the cruddy jobs on them. Don't talk down and make them feel stupid for not knowing committee legislation (when they may have been working in offices for 12 years *breathe breathe*). Make them feel like they are part of a special group, so that they want to keep on keeping on for the next 20, 30 years. They are your community theatres future. Don't just drag them into a cloud of negativity and thoughts of 'no one helps' , 'we have to do everything our selves' , 'poor us'. I found the moment I put my hand up to help out, I was given everything. And was basically burnt out and resentful rather quickly. I have noticed this happening to the other very few people that are new do-gooders. This year I have put my time into being front-of-house manager and my husband is bar manager, I'm sticking to my guns (although not very successfully) and not picking up the slack anywhere else. I have recognised this and when recruiting for FOH & Bar staff for each show I've tried to make it as simple, fun, stressfree for all those that have been willing to help. The result - in past years only 3 or 4 people have helped and with our latest show (Dangerous Liaisons - Mandurah Little Theatre plug plug plug) I had 11 responses for helpers within 36 hours of putting the plea out. Most of them were first timers at the last show. But had a good time so were willing to volunteer again. So maybe thats one of the many keys to unlocking the volunteer deadbolt. Ask, appreciate and go easy. Don't flog em to death the moment a newbie steps up. Turtle and the Hare. Sky Dangerous Liaisons Koorliny Arts Centre – Sulphur Road, Kwinana Friday 26th March & Saturday 27th March Adult $18 Conc $16 9439 0290 Mandurah Little Theatre – Mandurah Senior College, Education Way (former Carleton Place) next to Peel TAFE, Mandurah Friday 9th April & Saturday 10th April (matinee & evening show) Friday 16th April & Saturday 17th April (matinee & evening show) Adult $18 Conc $16 Mandurah Visitors Centre 9550 3999
JoeMcThu, 25 Mar 2010, 10:24 am

I have seen a change over

I have seen a change over the last 50 odd years, where by it used to be at least 75% of a productions cast, would help build, bump in & out a season they were in. But theses days it's leass than 0,8% who are prepared to do 'it'!

Which at times I can't blame them, as most comeatres don't worry about it untill the death knock - then panic!

Mind you in a lot of cases there is a puple circle of custodians of thier own home grown policies, that thwart any involvement of others. Also weird ideas like using box frame flats, because someone eaons ago, suggested that traditional flats can't be used on thier stage. Or we don't use Borders on stage because of the lightining &/or other pathetic inhouse imposed rules which are just as ilogical.

Further a great lack of basic staging resources, to make the job easier for even warm props to handle & not perspire over.

The greatest & cheapest reuseable resource in ameatre - is people!

So why do we make it so difficult? 

I agree with James on the workshops, however as always, as there is a heap of emperical skills here in comeatre, why are not more workshops held to accomadate the needs of ameatres.

May be this is the domain of 'Aunty' to instigate? 

mike raineThu, 25 Mar 2010, 03:05 pm

territory

yup . . . there is a fair bit of territorialism that accompanies the long-standing core of a theatre group. They've been there so long that they get possessive about their little patch . . . so at the same time as grumbling that they have to do everything, they can, at the same time, prevent the help from happening by hanging on to their specialty.
SkybeFri, 26 Mar 2010, 09:31 am

Touche

"they get possessive about their little patch . . . so at the same time as grumbling that they have to do everything" Never a truer word spoken.
JoeMcFri, 26 Mar 2010, 01:28 pm

There is a lot of old farts

There is a lot of old farts in comeatre, like me who are considered invalid for whatever reason.

Yet there are as many younger ones who tend to stumble along blindly following some mythical rules & policies seemingly set in stone.

No one has any idea or rembers why, "but we always do it this way" - which defies logic for whatever ends.

For the life of me [well not much of that left] there are a few bods still knocking about here who could inpart some theatrical empiral knowledge & staging skills who can still wear the T shirt, before they fall off the perch.

But frankly it's easier just to let them stew in thier own pot, as they seem happy to do,

One wee piece I tend to remember, which may help is;- 

To aproach the stanger is to invite the unexpected, release a new force.

Or let the genie out of the bottle is to start a new train of events beyond your control.

TS Eliot 'The Cocktail Party"

Keep an open mind as a closed one can never reconise or accept a creative accident.

jeffhansenFri, 26 Mar 2010, 07:30 pm

We have a rule at committee

We have a rule at committee meetings. "Because it's always been done that way" is not a valid reason for anything, and invites scorn upon the speaker. Actually, not a rule, more of a guideline. Down at Melville, half the committee is on the 'right' side of fifty (3 on the right side of forty - one not even 30). This has a tendency to shout down the "we've always done it like that" comments. We are not that different to other theatres, where a few do the bulk of the work. I was recently very pleased at a set building day when we had about 10-15 people turn out. Some of them cast of the current show who have never been to MTC before. There is hope, but I agree with Skye. Break the noobs in gently. www.meltheco.org.au
NormaFri, 26 Mar 2010, 08:15 pm

We have a rule at committee

No Jeff, it's not a valid reason for always doing the 'same thing' -but neither is it a good idea to throw things out just because "they've always been done that way'

A bit more thought on some people's part as to WHY things have been done that way could well be beneficial.

Many 'rules' have been put into place for very good reasons. so suggest that the "young ones" stop and think for a moment

jeffhansenFri, 26 Mar 2010, 08:51 pm

No no

You misunderstand me Norma. I only said that 'always' is not a valid reason. Other reasons and arguments are always welcomed. We don't dismiss the old ways, we just sometimes ask 'why?'. We are always happy to learn from the more experienced amongst us. It stops us from making mistakes that have already been made and learnt from. www.meltheco.org.au
Walter PlingeSat, 27 Mar 2010, 01:01 pm

The Committee Clique

If I may add another 2 cent's worth. Years ago a group of friends and I decided to start putting on amateur theatre shows. We had met doing amateur theatre and 'doing our own thing' seemed like the perfect way to consolidate our friendship and do what we loved all together. We had a few, 4, glorious years of fun, cast parties and won a several local theatre awards for our troubles along the way. Ultimately however, we folded. Part of our demise was borne of the fact that a group of people who met as actors increasingly found themselves stuck doing the admin, grunt work and running the bloody company for OTHER people to get on stage in our shows! The greater part of our defeat, and some people could not see it at the time, was the fact that a clique of friends had started this thing, to largely serve their own purposes, and we had inadvertantly made it impossible for any new people, ideas or help to infiltrate the ranks, shoulder some of the load and move the company forward. Exhaustion and the never ending rigours of a small group of people running a business combined with no opportunities to just act anywhere saw us fold. Yes, we had great ideas and noble intentions but not allowing our little group to be infiltrated or changed by anyone outside the original gang was a fast track to our demise. Looking back, we actually had numerous people offer up their expertise, time, skills and advice. We were a fun gang to be around and it's not as if no-one wanted to be a part of what we were doing. Ok, let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. However, new ideas and people, and the space to let them contribute would have saved our group and perhaps would also breath fresh life in to committees and companies struggling to get out of the cyclical rut they find themselves in. Actually, it ended up being 5 cent's worth! Tulipa.
JoeMcMon, 29 Mar 2010, 07:07 am

Apionted acess commitees

Just before I pulled the pin at the Phoenix Theatre & moved to a less greener t'eatah patch in embleton.

I floated an idea of adding sub commitees to our structure. Each of the three elected executives Offices of President, Secretary & Treasurer. Would chair a sub commitee appionted as \required from the  general membership & community at large.

Each sub commitee could meet at any place or time they wished to discuss the aspect of theatre assigned & have thier decissions, proposals p;resented for ratification by the monthly general meeting assembled.

{Example}

President;- Production, logistics & advocacy

Secretary;- Promotion, FOH & social

Tresurer;- Sponsorship, Budgets & finance

{&/or other portfolio areas assigned from time to time}

Each sub commitee can apiont members or co-opt those technicaly experieced individuals at will & as required.

This would allow these commitees to utalise & tap into to the resources of the community & be able to utalise the whole of it's old & new membership.

Also each production season would have an inbuilt conduit to handle the main aspects of theier show & a direct contact to the Exective & general commitees.

I never got the chance to see how this would work with Phoenix, but from experiance it does work in other orginisations.

This also breaks down the ivy tower image of most group commitees & allows new & old member input without the rigid format of a commitee meeting, in fact there is more acomplished over a cuppa than most commitee meetings ever do.

 

 

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