Moderating Posts Down

Wed, 10 Sept 2008, 04:17 pm

DazzaB21 posts in thread

Okay, I'm a little confused - someone (or several someones) appears to moderating posts down at an alarming rate. I writing of course inr egards to the All Shook Up threads in the reviews forum. It seems now that posts are being moderated down even if they say nice things about the show... Are some people having a moderation war or something? I can't agree with this kind of blatant and unwarranted censorship! If a post is racist, uses abusive language or any of those things that would warrant moderation I completely understand, but the moderation that is going on is nothing short of juvenile. I'm not sure whether Logos is right in regards to shows that have large numbers of young people involved being a breeding ground for this sort of behaviour, but I think he could make a strong case. At this stage, I think that everyone needs to have their moderation rights revoked! I for one would be happy to give up the privelage of moderation if it means that this silly consorship will stop. Just because you don't agree with the content of a post does not give you the right to make it disappear. At least, that's what I think. I would love to hear other people's thoughts on this - please, let's start one of the good old fashioned discussions about this - if it turns out I'm in the minority, I'll shut up - I promise! DazzaB "Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep!" - Scott Adams

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DazzaBWed, 10 Sept 2008, 04:17 pm

jmuzzWed, 10 Sept 2008, 07:39 pm

Attention: Anonymous Moderator

If you hold a position of ANY responsibility in Perth theatre, cease and desist your actions or have the courage to reveal who you are and resign from your post!! I am sick and tired of this behaviour and I suspect I know some of who have indulged in this sort of behaviour previously (although the present culprit I'm not sure about). And for God's sake, let's all just try and get along. When did courteousy become unfashionable? Grant, my commiserations - this sort of behaviour must be a source of sorrow. Dazza B - whilst I agree with your sentiments on this, let's hope commonsense prevails and some people shame-facedly slink away. We don't (or shouldn't) need a thread on this topic. If people execute a little restraint, maybe we'll have utopia of a sort.

Daniel KershawWed, 10 Sept 2008, 07:44 pm

Dazza said: At this stage,

Dazza said: At this stage, I think that everyone needs to have their moderation rights revoked! I for one would be happy to give up the privelage of moderation if it means that this silly consorship will stop. - I couldn't agree more.

jeffhansenWed, 10 Sept 2008, 07:51 pm

Moderation

I have done my share of moderation of posts, both up and down, but not in the All Shook Up threads. I like to moderate a post up when I feel it makes a valid or valuable point, or I think it may be of interest to other users. Similarly, I will vote a post down when it is being used to abuse or personally attack someone. I find that the abusive posts are usually from Walters, and not registered users. I haven't made a conscious effort to study this, but I tend to agree with Tony's comment about the moderation wars and 'name calling' being more prevalent when the show has a large proportion of young cast. I think the older users maybe have a better grasp of language and how to communicate without stooping to schoolyard bully tactics. There are, however, always exceptions. The answer may be to have down voted post quarantined, to be reviewed by an editor/administrator before a decision to remove the post is made. This has a couple of inherent problems. It places a huge workload onto Grant and his 4 or 5 editors, and I think goes against the egalitarian way the site operates. It may also not be possible due to the way the out-of-the-box code for this site works. The problem Dazza is that if you don't like the content of a post, you DO have the right to make it disappear. www.meltheco.org.au

Bass GuyWed, 10 Sept 2008, 08:02 pm

Moderation, but only in moderation?

Must confess I've never seen the point of having the ability to moderate posts. Who, after all, am I to determine what posts are highlighted and which are buried? I don't think THAT highly of myself to wield such power, and judging for the comments of those folks who seem to spend every waking moment of their lives perusing the activity of posts on this site (Jeff Watkins, I'm looking at you! :-P), this privilege seems to be abused for no other reason than it gives those who are faffing about with the results a sense of power they must lack in their real lives. Pity them, but don't pay attention to them. "Proud and insolent youth; prepare to meet thy doom!"

Walter PlingeThu, 11 Sept 2008, 08:19 am

I really dont see the

I really dont see the issue. If you dont like what you read move on or make a comment like the rest. why would you want to censor opinion or moderate? just let it be and move on. also, this fixation with anons - so what? it is the right of all on here to post anonomously (spelling). Some dont like it, but so what, at times it can make people more comfortable especially if reviewing friends or colleagues work. Obviously there will be one or two that take advantage of that, but im afraid that is just the way of the world. if you enjoy this 'buisness' then i suggest you grow a thick skin if you wish to continue.

sarahvThu, 11 Sept 2008, 12:02 pm

Moderating in company comments

As an online rep of the Stirling Players, I have recently discovered that the comments thread within our "company page" have been moderated. While I agree that most of them are now outdated and could do with being deleted entirely, I am still wondering who it is with authority who moderated them in the first place?

AndrewGThu, 11 Sept 2008, 12:39 pm

Anyone can moderate

Anyone can moderate comments, it just takes someone to vote the comment down for it to go to a 1 liner... At the moment, some people are taking moderation as a bit of a joke. Maybe a way around this problem could be the ability to moderate back up, so if someone moderates something down that we don't think should be moderated we can get it back?

AndrewGThu, 11 Sept 2008, 12:40 pm

Upon posting my last post,

Upon posting my last post, it was immediately moderated down? Maybe there is an issue at the moment with the moderation?

LabrugThu, 11 Sept 2008, 12:44 pm

You Can

If you set your filters to see ALL THE RUBBISH, then you will be able to moderate the posting, if you haven't already that is. Also, from this view, you will always see all postings, except thos (of course) that get removed.

The only problem with this view, is that you cannot see what moderations have already been done. You have to switch between filter views in order to get the whole picture.

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LabrugThu, 11 Sept 2008, 12:45 pm

Return to sender

I moderated you back up again. ;-)

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sarahvThu, 11 Sept 2008, 02:43 pm

Moderating in company comments

Ahh. Yes, I did understand that. I only questioned it because it seemed a bit odd that someone who wasn't an Admin would be moderating comments that weren't actually in a forum discussion... But, hey. Web forums are usually full of oddballs... There will always be people who get a sick kick out of getting other people down on the internet, and it usually has some relation to ego issues... At the end of the day, who people are on the internet is usually the total opposite of who they are in the real world, and many people exploit this fact. Those who choose to exert as much "cyber authority" as they can are usually the ones who have little authority in the real world. Online power trips may boost the ego, but they definitely do not boost the online popularity. Hence, remaining anonymous. I don't think it matters how many changes are made to the forum "rules" and "permissions". The only way to stop attention seekers ruining your day is to stop giving them the attention. Daniel Kershaw proved that it's extremely hard to totally give up on a forum you have strong ties to (and it would have been a shame for one of the "good ones" on this forum to no longer contribute), but it's a lot easier to just stick to the topics at hand without whingeing about the annoying moderations and anonymous posts.

NaThu, 11 Sept 2008, 02:46 pm

That's not how it works -

That's not how it works - posts are moderated up or down based on the aggregate vote, not from one person's vote. Mermaid shadow puppet now on sale at Puppets in Melbourne

sarahvThu, 11 Sept 2008, 02:55 pm

That makes it even ODDER.

That makes it even ODDER. How can, in the space of a couple of days (since I last looked), can about 6 comments which have been sitting there for up to two years, have been all read and moderated down at the same time, apparently based on an "aggregate vote"? Aside from me going on about "if you ignore them, they will go away"... maybe this actually is a technical glitch?? I'm sure the "moderating down" of comments is an issue within the forums... but it just seems plain WEIRD to me that more than one person a week is reading and moderating the Stirling Players company page...

LabrugThu, 11 Sept 2008, 03:39 pm

Numbers

Most likely because not enough people are actually moderating and moderating posts up.

Many posts can sit there for ages without being moderated at all, as in those on the Stirlling Gropu page. There is a mind-set (I suffered once) that if you can see it, you don't need to moderate, unless it is to moderate it down. The truth is, if you want posts to stay up, you moderate ALL POSTS. There is obviously far too few people moderating up. Hopefully this ongoing and quite lively series of discussions will bring this fact to light and more people will start to make an effort to moderate positively.

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AndrewGThu, 11 Sept 2008, 03:46 pm

Call me blond or stupid!

Call me blond or stupid! But can someone please tell me how to change my filter settings? Ta Andy>

LabrugThu, 11 Sept 2008, 03:49 pm

With Pleasure

Underneath the main post, you will see a series of drop-down boxes. The last one will have 4/5 options - Best of the Best, Fair Comments, All the Rubbish - things like that - Select your desired option and then save options.

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LogosThu, 11 Sept 2008, 03:50 pm

At the top of each thread

At the top of each thread under the original post their is an area called Comment Viewing Options. The last box will probably be set on Good Comments. You can reset it to All The Rubbish and that will give you the ability to moderate comments up that have been moderated down. Is that all there is? Well if that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing. www.tonymoore.id.au

AndrewGThu, 11 Sept 2008, 03:51 pm

ahhhhh - it all makes sense

ahhhhh - it all makes sense now! Thanks! :)

sarahvThu, 11 Sept 2008, 10:18 pm

*Hopefully* haha Thanks

*Hopefully* haha Thanks very much, Jeff. So it was all a wonderful weirdly coincidence! And there I was spewing forth outlandish theories of Admins on rampages and "technical glitches" Ah Well..

Julian GoncalvesFri, 12 Sept 2008, 01:01 am

simply revoke all

simply revoke all moderating abilities except for those of admin status, and then just have a 'report as spam' or 'report' for those which are bad, or rude or inappropriate etc, which will be flagged, and then the moderators can make a decision as to whether it should be removed or not.

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