falling levels of enthusiasm
Sun, 25 Mar 2001, 01:43 amWalter Plinge61 posts in thread
falling levels of enthusiasm
Sun, 25 Mar 2001, 01:43 amIs it just me, or is our theatre community in general suffering from an acute lack of enthusiasm?
I'm not talking about the audiences (although depending on where you go, this can be a problem), but rather among the practitioners.
Maybe it's my breath, but every show I've directed since returning to Perth has suffered from a disorder I call ADS, or Auditionee Deficiency Syndome.
I had to ring around and _beg_ people to be involved in "Summer of the Seventeenth Doll". We were recruiting passing skateboarders to play roles in "Romeo & Juliet".
Now, after weeks of negotiations, I have finally put together an outstanding professional pianist and five exceptional professional opera singers to appear in "After Aida". Unfortunately, I have only _two_ of the five actors needed.
This is going to make today's planned first read-through a wee bit difficult.
Granted, one of the three remaining roles is reserved for a certain GDS kahuna who is currently gliding through the snow on two pieces of lacquered wood, and who is gleefully oblivious to the fact that I have cast him behind his back. I had always anticipated stunt-reading this role at the first read-through.
But the two remaining roles (both doozies), are going begging.
It's especially frustrating since one prominent local actor has turned me down at the last minute (last night) citing financial woes, and another won't even return my calls.
Is it so hard to find two male actors in their early forties to play terrific roles in a funny, clever, utterly entertaining play?
It appears to be an endemic problem in our theatre community. Lots of teenagers and twenty-somethings, and lots of retirees anxious for action, but where the hell are all the middle-aged actors? Even the rare few are getting hard to pin down.
My mobile number is 0417 789 845. The reading's at 1pm today (Sunday 25th). G.I. Joe, if you're out there, frickin' well call me! The role is yours if you want it.
David Meadows.
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I'm not talking about the audiences (although depending on where you go, this can be a problem), but rather among the practitioners.
Maybe it's my breath, but every show I've directed since returning to Perth has suffered from a disorder I call ADS, or Auditionee Deficiency Syndome.
I had to ring around and _beg_ people to be involved in "Summer of the Seventeenth Doll". We were recruiting passing skateboarders to play roles in "Romeo & Juliet".
Now, after weeks of negotiations, I have finally put together an outstanding professional pianist and five exceptional professional opera singers to appear in "After Aida". Unfortunately, I have only _two_ of the five actors needed.
This is going to make today's planned first read-through a wee bit difficult.
Granted, one of the three remaining roles is reserved for a certain GDS kahuna who is currently gliding through the snow on two pieces of lacquered wood, and who is gleefully oblivious to the fact that I have cast him behind his back. I had always anticipated stunt-reading this role at the first read-through.
But the two remaining roles (both doozies), are going begging.
It's especially frustrating since one prominent local actor has turned me down at the last minute (last night) citing financial woes, and another won't even return my calls.
Is it so hard to find two male actors in their early forties to play terrific roles in a funny, clever, utterly entertaining play?
It appears to be an endemic problem in our theatre community. Lots of teenagers and twenty-somethings, and lots of retirees anxious for action, but where the hell are all the middle-aged actors? Even the rare few are getting hard to pin down.
My mobile number is 0417 789 845. The reading's at 1pm today (Sunday 25th). G.I. Joe, if you're out there, frickin' well call me! The role is yours if you want it.
David Meadows.
FREE MUMIA ABU-JAMAL!
www.freemumia.org
www.MumiaBook.com
Walter PlingeSun, 25 Mar 2001, 01:43 am
Is it just me, or is our theatre community in general suffering from an acute lack of enthusiasm?
I'm not talking about the audiences (although depending on where you go, this can be a problem), but rather among the practitioners.
Maybe it's my breath, but every show I've directed since returning to Perth has suffered from a disorder I call ADS, or Auditionee Deficiency Syndome.
I had to ring around and _beg_ people to be involved in "Summer of the Seventeenth Doll". We were recruiting passing skateboarders to play roles in "Romeo & Juliet".
Now, after weeks of negotiations, I have finally put together an outstanding professional pianist and five exceptional professional opera singers to appear in "After Aida". Unfortunately, I have only _two_ of the five actors needed.
This is going to make today's planned first read-through a wee bit difficult.
Granted, one of the three remaining roles is reserved for a certain GDS kahuna who is currently gliding through the snow on two pieces of lacquered wood, and who is gleefully oblivious to the fact that I have cast him behind his back. I had always anticipated stunt-reading this role at the first read-through.
But the two remaining roles (both doozies), are going begging.
It's especially frustrating since one prominent local actor has turned me down at the last minute (last night) citing financial woes, and another won't even return my calls.
Is it so hard to find two male actors in their early forties to play terrific roles in a funny, clever, utterly entertaining play?
It appears to be an endemic problem in our theatre community. Lots of teenagers and twenty-somethings, and lots of retirees anxious for action, but where the hell are all the middle-aged actors? Even the rare few are getting hard to pin down.
My mobile number is 0417 789 845. The reading's at 1pm today (Sunday 25th). G.I. Joe, if you're out there, frickin' well call me! The role is yours if you want it.
David Meadows.
FREE MUMIA ABU-JAMAL!
www.freemumia.org
www.MumiaBook.com
I'm not talking about the audiences (although depending on where you go, this can be a problem), but rather among the practitioners.
Maybe it's my breath, but every show I've directed since returning to Perth has suffered from a disorder I call ADS, or Auditionee Deficiency Syndome.
I had to ring around and _beg_ people to be involved in "Summer of the Seventeenth Doll". We were recruiting passing skateboarders to play roles in "Romeo & Juliet".
Now, after weeks of negotiations, I have finally put together an outstanding professional pianist and five exceptional professional opera singers to appear in "After Aida". Unfortunately, I have only _two_ of the five actors needed.
This is going to make today's planned first read-through a wee bit difficult.
Granted, one of the three remaining roles is reserved for a certain GDS kahuna who is currently gliding through the snow on two pieces of lacquered wood, and who is gleefully oblivious to the fact that I have cast him behind his back. I had always anticipated stunt-reading this role at the first read-through.
But the two remaining roles (both doozies), are going begging.
It's especially frustrating since one prominent local actor has turned me down at the last minute (last night) citing financial woes, and another won't even return my calls.
Is it so hard to find two male actors in their early forties to play terrific roles in a funny, clever, utterly entertaining play?
It appears to be an endemic problem in our theatre community. Lots of teenagers and twenty-somethings, and lots of retirees anxious for action, but where the hell are all the middle-aged actors? Even the rare few are getting hard to pin down.
My mobile number is 0417 789 845. The reading's at 1pm today (Sunday 25th). G.I. Joe, if you're out there, frickin' well call me! The role is yours if you want it.
David Meadows.
FREE MUMIA ABU-JAMAL!
www.freemumia.org
www.MumiaBook.com
Leah MaherMon, 26 Mar 2001, 02:07 pm
RE: falling levels of enthusiasm
This is not directed exclusively at you David, but t seems astounding to me that people complain, (and quite rightly) that there are no auditionees except for teenagers, women and older people, all of whom they don't need.
I've got an idea; why don't we do more plays for teenagers, women and older people?
ESCPECIALLY ( and I admitt my bias here) WOMEN!!! We have an imbalance of women to men in ameteur theatre, yet instead of doing the obvious thing and putting in a little extra effort to find good plays which are exclusively or mostly women (I assure you they do exist, Kimberly Shaw has bookcases full of them), we still struggle on trying to share the very few men in ameteur theatre and complaining about their lack of enthusiasm!
Good luck with finding your men David, I agree it would be nice to have more of them. Next time you could perhaps have a crack at "The Women".
And before the roof blows off this one, I think men are allowed to have a creative vision when it comes to a "womans" play as long as, as with all good directors, they are prepared to listen to their casts and vary their vision according to the personal experiences thereof.
I've got an idea; why don't we do more plays for teenagers, women and older people?
ESCPECIALLY ( and I admitt my bias here) WOMEN!!! We have an imbalance of women to men in ameteur theatre, yet instead of doing the obvious thing and putting in a little extra effort to find good plays which are exclusively or mostly women (I assure you they do exist, Kimberly Shaw has bookcases full of them), we still struggle on trying to share the very few men in ameteur theatre and complaining about their lack of enthusiasm!
Good luck with finding your men David, I agree it would be nice to have more of them. Next time you could perhaps have a crack at "The Women".
And before the roof blows off this one, I think men are allowed to have a creative vision when it comes to a "womans" play as long as, as with all good directors, they are prepared to listen to their casts and vary their vision according to the personal experiences thereof.
KimberleyMon, 26 Mar 2001, 02:26 pm
RE: falling levels of enthusiasm
They don't even have to be ALL female casts.
One production of a Shakespeare (even allowing for some cross casting) or a Pratchett or any of these predominantly male casts, creates a shortage of men across Perth for months, so all of those five men, two women shows (or 6 men, 3women etc) which everyone insists are "even" are suddenly short of men.
Perhaps if they look a little harder people might find more six women, 4 men shows and try to redress the balance.
One company (they know who they are) thinks that they are being fair, by encouraging directors to chose plays that are "roughly even" in terms of roles for each sex. Of course, when even a couple of those "roughly even" shows favour the men, this creates an actual imbalance that is far poorer for women.
Think of the good actors you know. How many talented women (especially older women) do you know, who spend a good deal of the time without a show, while younger male actors of less ability remain constantly busy ?
Sorry, I'll get off my high horse now. Leah, you know not to get me started.
One production of a Shakespeare (even allowing for some cross casting) or a Pratchett or any of these predominantly male casts, creates a shortage of men across Perth for months, so all of those five men, two women shows (or 6 men, 3women etc) which everyone insists are "even" are suddenly short of men.
Perhaps if they look a little harder people might find more six women, 4 men shows and try to redress the balance.
One company (they know who they are) thinks that they are being fair, by encouraging directors to chose plays that are "roughly even" in terms of roles for each sex. Of course, when even a couple of those "roughly even" shows favour the men, this creates an actual imbalance that is far poorer for women.
Think of the good actors you know. How many talented women (especially older women) do you know, who spend a good deal of the time without a show, while younger male actors of less ability remain constantly busy ?
Sorry, I'll get off my high horse now. Leah, you know not to get me started.
Walter PlingeTue, 27 Mar 2001, 12:18 am
Blimey! Who stepped on the oestrogen button?
It wasn't me! It's your fault Meddoes!!! :-)
Whilst both Leah and Kimberley have a great point, let's not forget the central dilemma as faced by Mr Meddoes. Not many folk (of ALL genders) are bothering to turn up to auditions.
I would venture that the ones we're used to seeing in shows are getting burnt out from doing shows all the freaking time. And that those who write crtitism-wittisism all the time, and nothing but, are too lazy/scared/flatulent/obese/dead/you-name-it to prove their mettle.
Could it be there's too much on for one ITA to handle???????
Just a thought- a wizened one, yes, but.....
Actors! I exhort you: choose your roles WELL. Critics! I exhort you: do something constructive, or contract an incurable illness and die!
And begrudged wimmin-folk of Thespia; if there's not enough good stuff for women on offer (and let's face it, there never is), take up thy pen and WRITE something other than aggrieved posts on this website!!!
I FREAKING DARE YOU!!!!!
Lots of love, best wishes etc...
Eliot.
Whilst both Leah and Kimberley have a great point, let's not forget the central dilemma as faced by Mr Meddoes. Not many folk (of ALL genders) are bothering to turn up to auditions.
I would venture that the ones we're used to seeing in shows are getting burnt out from doing shows all the freaking time. And that those who write crtitism-wittisism all the time, and nothing but, are too lazy/scared/flatulent/obese/dead/you-name-it to prove their mettle.
Could it be there's too much on for one ITA to handle???????
Just a thought- a wizened one, yes, but.....
Actors! I exhort you: choose your roles WELL. Critics! I exhort you: do something constructive, or contract an incurable illness and die!
And begrudged wimmin-folk of Thespia; if there's not enough good stuff for women on offer (and let's face it, there never is), take up thy pen and WRITE something other than aggrieved posts on this website!!!
I FREAKING DARE YOU!!!!!
Lots of love, best wishes etc...
Eliot.
BabarTue, 27 Mar 2001, 01:37 am
Write your own quality? You're talkin' crazy talk!
I like this line of thought. Not only in reference to the "crap female roles" dilemma. That said, PLEASE someone recommend a good One-Act for the Youth Dramafest. I'm tearing my hair out trying to find a script that I like. In fact, I'm on the verge of writing one. And those of you who have glimpsed my depraved little mind know that no good can possibly come of that.
BabarTue, 27 Mar 2001, 01:45 am
RE: falling levels of enthusiasm
I forgot to say, please Kim; Ix nay on the alentlesstay oungyay alesmay! Did it ever occur that this disparity is all that's keeping some of us on-stage?
;P
Troy
;P
Troy
Leah MaherTue, 27 Mar 2001, 08:48 am
RE: Blimey! Who stepped on the oestrogen button?
Your "oestrogen button" is our lives, Elliott. The sisterhood notes your respect and concern.
We will be expecting your female dominated script on our desk in the morning.
We will be expecting your female dominated script on our desk in the morning.
Walter PlingeTue, 27 Mar 2001, 09:17 am
Serendipitous script suggestions...
How perspicacious of you to mention that, Leah. Dean and I have been working on a script about female domination for some time now, and we're just about ready to go. Auditions will be held in Dean's dungeon, errr, wine cellar, errr stylish and noirish newly-converted "games room". Amanda will be providing props and costumes, but feel free to bring any of your own accoutrements.
JB
JB
Walter PlingeTue, 27 Mar 2001, 09:38 am
RE: falling levels of enthusiasm
Last week I held an audition for 'Bouncers' by John Godber.I needed FOUR of the elusive male type actors roughly aged between 25-40. I was very impressed by the turn-out and the amount of preparation and research done by some of the auditionees. I think we have to bear in mind that there are actors out there who are choosy about which productions they audition for and when choosing a production we should try to inspire our performers as well as our audience.
BarbZTue, 27 Mar 2001, 01:59 pm
To Troy hall-1 act scripts leads
Troy ..
try this link:
http:www.rock.mtx.net/page3.html
then follow the links there to
* SMALL CAST ONE ACT PLAYS
and
* THE DRAMATIC EXCHANGE
for a plethora of one act plays.
The Dramatic Exchange link gives you the opportunity to read scripts there on-line.
Good luck .. BarbZ
try this link:
http:www.rock.mtx.net/page3.html
then follow the links there to
* SMALL CAST ONE ACT PLAYS
and
* THE DRAMATIC EXCHANGE
for a plethora of one act plays.
The Dramatic Exchange link gives you the opportunity to read scripts there on-line.
Good luck .. BarbZ
Walter PlingeTue, 27 Mar 2001, 02:13 pm
RE: falling levels of enthusiasm
Very interesting reading all your views on this subject.
Being from the UK and having lived in Perth for the past 18 months, I was at first a bit subdued by a place which i thought (wait for it!), THOUGHT, was a non-event in terms of 'the arts'.
After a bit of research (and finding this site!) for example, i was proven to be wrong. Very wrong. Not only is WA special in its natural beauty, there are some beautiful people here with a vibrant entusiasm for life. If only people were to harness that vibrant enthusiasm and unleash it in the theatres of perth.
I therefore am intending to do exactly that, after being given a new lease of life my this city. I intend to put that back into the community.
Let's hope the roles come my way (for a 24 year male with a lust for acting).
Watch out Perth - here i come!!
Being from the UK and having lived in Perth for the past 18 months, I was at first a bit subdued by a place which i thought (wait for it!), THOUGHT, was a non-event in terms of 'the arts'.
After a bit of research (and finding this site!) for example, i was proven to be wrong. Very wrong. Not only is WA special in its natural beauty, there are some beautiful people here with a vibrant entusiasm for life. If only people were to harness that vibrant enthusiasm and unleash it in the theatres of perth.
I therefore am intending to do exactly that, after being given a new lease of life my this city. I intend to put that back into the community.
Let's hope the roles come my way (for a 24 year male with a lust for acting).
Watch out Perth - here i come!!
Grant MalcolmTue, 27 Mar 2001, 04:45 pm
RE: 1 act scripts leads
You might also want to check the Australian Script Centre
All these links are available on the links page.
Cheers
Grant
All these links are available on the links page.
Cheers
Grant
Amanda ChestertonTue, 27 Mar 2001, 10:32 pm
RE: Serendipitous script suggestions...
> Jarrod Buttery wrote:
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> Amanda will be providing props and costumes, but feel free to bring any of your own . . > accoutrements.
So David's told you about the /first/ party dress and accessories, then? :-)
Amanda
Walter PlingeWed, 28 Mar 2001, 08:14 am
RE: Serendipitous script suggestions...
In actual fact Amanda, you were the inspiration for JB and my foray into writing. It came to us watching you in the red dress and looooong black boots lying on the New Fortune stage panting (sorry, I mean "dying").
It's not actually a play really - more a "work in progress". We have scribbled down a few ideas on a sheet of paper and intend to gather around us a tight enthusiastic bunch of young female actors to bring this piece to life. Rather than rehearsals we will be having workshops all of which will be videotaped - for educational purposes, annnnd .... to help the Directors (guess who!) to see the progress of the actors as they delve deeper into the murky waters of the B&D world.
It will all be to a score by a thrash metal band with the occasional piece by Barry White (Ooooh baby...etc.).
The working title at this stage is "The Molls House-a radical re-reading of Ibsen" but we are flexible on that .
Any thoughts on a poster?
It's not actually a play really - more a "work in progress". We have scribbled down a few ideas on a sheet of paper and intend to gather around us a tight enthusiastic bunch of young female actors to bring this piece to life. Rather than rehearsals we will be having workshops all of which will be videotaped - for educational purposes, annnnd .... to help the Directors (guess who!) to see the progress of the actors as they delve deeper into the murky waters of the B&D world.
It will all be to a score by a thrash metal band with the occasional piece by Barry White (Ooooh baby...etc.).
The working title at this stage is "The Molls House-a radical re-reading of Ibsen" but we are flexible on that .
Any thoughts on a poster?
LouiseCCWed, 28 Mar 2001, 08:18 am
RE: falling levels of enthusiasm
I seem to be experiencing the other end of the stick. I'm holding auditions for Amadeus on Saturday (from 1pm at the Don Russell PAC, Thornlie - quick plug), and although I've had a healthy number of men interested, the women seem to be rather thin on the ground. And I do need some.....honest.....
I have completely re-sexed one role, and am more than happy to cast women in some of the remaining roles, in an attempt to redress the balance of male/female casting.
So for anyone who is looking for men to fill roles in the next few months - I've got them all! HA! (But I might be willing to trade for some women.) ;-)
LouiseCC
Walter PlingeWed, 28 Mar 2001, 12:30 pm
RE: falling levels of enthusiasm
I usually leave this sort of thing to BZ:
"I had re-sexed one role"
I think 're-gendered' was the term you were looking for. 'Re-sexed' implies that a 'de-sexing' had taken place and that is a far more messy proceedure...
"I had re-sexed one role"
I think 're-gendered' was the term you were looking for. 'Re-sexed' implies that a 'de-sexing' had taken place and that is a far more messy proceedure...
LouiseCCWed, 28 Mar 2001, 01:20 pm
Oooops
Malcolm Crisp wrote:
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I usually leave this sort of thing to BZ:
"I had re-sexed one role"
I think 're-gendered' was the term you were looking for. 'Re-sexed' implies that a 'de-sexing' had taken place and that is a far more messy proceedure...
Yes, you are quite right. Thank you - I stand corrected. Always better to think before you start typing early in the morning.....
Apologies for any (inadvertent) offence. :-(
LouiseCC
Walter PlingeWed, 28 Mar 2001, 09:31 pm
THe ladies' script shall soon be there...
... just as soon as you get the spelling of my name right!!
hur hur hur
Eliot
hur hur hur
Eliot
Walter PlingeWed, 28 Mar 2001, 09:41 pm
RE: Oooops? RUBBISH!!
Hang PC-isms!!! Re-sexed, re-gendered; we quibble over semantics! Or as the neo-nazis have it; we quibble over semetics!
OK now I've gone mad... I admit it...
Eliot.
OK now I've gone mad... I admit it...
Eliot.
Walter PlingeThu, 29 Mar 2001, 12:19 am
RE: THe ladies' script shall soon be there...
Pappa McCann wrote:
> ...just as soon as you get the spelling of my name right!!
It's spelled "Hypocrite", right?
peace,
David Meddoes (sic)... (fuk?)
(payback's a bitch, ain't it?)
> ...just as soon as you get the spelling of my name right!!
It's spelled "Hypocrite", right?
peace,
David Meddoes (sic)... (fuk?)
(payback's a bitch, ain't it?)
Walter PlingeThu, 29 Mar 2001, 06:36 pm
I wouldn't audition for any of your plays!
I am a male actor, but I would not bother auditioning for any plays directed by (or having anything to do with) David Medows. He is not worth my time and if other people know what kind of person he is then I'm not surprised if their is nobody turning up to his auditions.
Walter PlingeThu, 29 Mar 2001, 07:14 pm
RE: I wouldn't audition for any of your plays!
Good to see the Gutless Brigade are still out in force...
Obviously 'Male Actor' (not his real name!) is one of their newer recruits as he hasn't gotten the message that people on this site are sick and tired of low-blow comments coming from the 'safety' of anonymity.
MA: If you had any self-respect you would say your piece with full disclosure of your name and the circumstances in which you formed your opinion. Or abstain from comment (the preferred option). I'm betting that disclosing where these comments are coming from would make you look small and petty...like most of the 'beefs' that people have in the theatre world (am or pro).
You obviously have issues with David and I for one would encourage you to either make your peace or state your problems directly to David or desist from your cowardly, spineless public attacks...
Further, I think you owe the patrons of this site an apology for venting your spleen (in such a pathetic way) in a public forum. It is insulting to think that any 'nobody' can come onto this site, defecate all over the patrons (effectively) and then disappear.
All *I* ask is THINK before you ACT...your comments may prove hurtful to your target or they may not (I suspect in the case of David, they will not), but the rest of us are left despairing and disturbed over your attempt to seek some sort of impotent revenge...
Vaguely Disturbed
Jason
PS - By the way, your message seems to have originated at ECU or through some affiliation with them...I'm betting you're part of the Cowan Coterie who have 'issues' with David from 'the old days'. Look, just GET OVER IT - life's too short for this kind of hatred...
But I'm only guessing...have a nice day.
Obviously 'Male Actor' (not his real name!) is one of their newer recruits as he hasn't gotten the message that people on this site are sick and tired of low-blow comments coming from the 'safety' of anonymity.
MA: If you had any self-respect you would say your piece with full disclosure of your name and the circumstances in which you formed your opinion. Or abstain from comment (the preferred option). I'm betting that disclosing where these comments are coming from would make you look small and petty...like most of the 'beefs' that people have in the theatre world (am or pro).
You obviously have issues with David and I for one would encourage you to either make your peace or state your problems directly to David or desist from your cowardly, spineless public attacks...
Further, I think you owe the patrons of this site an apology for venting your spleen (in such a pathetic way) in a public forum. It is insulting to think that any 'nobody' can come onto this site, defecate all over the patrons (effectively) and then disappear.
All *I* ask is THINK before you ACT...your comments may prove hurtful to your target or they may not (I suspect in the case of David, they will not), but the rest of us are left despairing and disturbed over your attempt to seek some sort of impotent revenge...
Vaguely Disturbed
Jason
PS - By the way, your message seems to have originated at ECU or through some affiliation with them...I'm betting you're part of the Cowan Coterie who have 'issues' with David from 'the old days'. Look, just GET OVER IT - life's too short for this kind of hatred...
But I'm only guessing...have a nice day.
BabarThu, 29 Mar 2001, 08:17 pm
RE: I wouldn't audition for any of your plays!
Hear hear.
Of course, Jason is right about the posting originating at ECU. I think it's terminally stupid to make a posting such as this under a pseudonym, as not only do you appear unsure of your view (surely if you believed wholeheartedly you wouldn't care WHO knew. Standing by your comment adds validity to your viewpoint) but if anyone wants to put in the (surpisingly small) effort, they can find out who you are.
Troy
Of course, Jason is right about the posting originating at ECU. I think it's terminally stupid to make a posting such as this under a pseudonym, as not only do you appear unsure of your view (surely if you believed wholeheartedly you wouldn't care WHO knew. Standing by your comment adds validity to your viewpoint) but if anyone wants to put in the (surpisingly small) effort, they can find out who you are.
Troy
Grant MalcolmThu, 29 Mar 2001, 10:06 pm
RE: I wouldn't audition for any of your plays!
I doubt very much that anyone will regard your post as much more than a mild curiosity, "Male Actor" - except perhaps Meadows, who might choose not to rise your juicy bait.
I don't know that many people, if any, who have worked with David since he returned from Melbourne would agree with you or have the faintest idea what you are complaining about.
While Meadows has at times in the distant past been a lightning rod for these types of attacks, it's a real pleasure to see that practically everyone else is leaving the past behind and moving on.
I find myself agreeing with Jason: "the rest of us are left despairing and disturbed over your attempt to seek some sort of impotent revenge."
Anonymous Cowards are entitled to their views.
But, it may also be timely to remind people in general that it is entirely possible that you could be sued for defamation in relation to comments posted on this site. Escalating attacks might even lead to criminal charges.
Posting "anonymously" provides only a modicum of privacy. Should there be a need, you will be traced.
Cheers
Grant
I don't know that many people, if any, who have worked with David since he returned from Melbourne would agree with you or have the faintest idea what you are complaining about.
While Meadows has at times in the distant past been a lightning rod for these types of attacks, it's a real pleasure to see that practically everyone else is leaving the past behind and moving on.
I find myself agreeing with Jason: "the rest of us are left despairing and disturbed over your attempt to seek some sort of impotent revenge."
Anonymous Cowards are entitled to their views.
But, it may also be timely to remind people in general that it is entirely possible that you could be sued for defamation in relation to comments posted on this site. Escalating attacks might even lead to criminal charges.
Posting "anonymously" provides only a modicum of privacy. Should there be a need, you will be traced.
Cheers
Grant
Walter PlingeFri, 30 Mar 2001, 08:16 am
I wouldn't have MA in any of our plays!
The other thing that MA has to consider is, that if we ever do find out who he/she is, they may never be cast in a part again. Community theatre is not that desparate for actors yet, and I doubt that directors will take on someone who obviously cannot accept direction or critisism.
Walter PlingeFri, 30 Mar 2001, 08:58 am
RE: I wouldn't audition for any of your plays!
Congratulations, David!
If you're getting this sort of comment, well, you must be doing something right!
You're eliciting PASSION in at least one actor (?)
Really, do you WANT to be the sort of insipid colourless director that EVERYBODY thinks is OK, but no-one either loves or hates?!
[Let me point out that this comment is in no way trying to put down those directors whom everyone likes because they are fantastic]
Paul Treasure
If you're getting this sort of comment, well, you must be doing something right!
You're eliciting PASSION in at least one actor (?)
Really, do you WANT to be the sort of insipid colourless director that EVERYBODY thinks is OK, but no-one either loves or hates?!
[Let me point out that this comment is in no way trying to put down those directors whom everyone likes because they are fantastic]
Paul Treasure
Walter PlingeFri, 30 Mar 2001, 11:43 am
RE: I wouldn't audition for any of your plays!
I hope you spent much time over this drivel Male Actor! Because I would hate to think you called Davids whole moral being into question without thought. You use the term "what kind of person he is.." - now that is more than calling into question his theatrical ability. That is questioning his morality. Firstly, this is not the forum for such an outrageous slur, and secondly, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
I've known David for 10 years and have the utmost respect for him as a person and as a creative and gifted practitioner.
Come out from under your rock, have the courage to name yourself and back up your slimy accusation.
I've known David for 10 years and have the utmost respect for him as a person and as a creative and gifted practitioner.
Come out from under your rock, have the courage to name yourself and back up your slimy accusation.
SidselFri, 30 Mar 2001, 02:38 pm
RE: falling levels of enthusiasm
Or should it be rising do. Rob, how did the auditions for 'Yonkers' go? I would love to hear some goss as I'm sitting up to my ears in snow in The Land of the Mignight Sun (not much of that around this time of the year) while the temp sinks to minus 10 at night. See y'all towards the end of April.
Walter PlingeSat, 31 Mar 2001, 09:15 am
RE: THe ladies' script shall soon be there...
David Meadows wrote:
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Pappa McCann wrote:
> ...just as soon as you get the spelling of my name right!!
It's spelled "Hypocrite", right?
That's right- emphasis on the second syllable. :-)
(payback's a bitch, ain't it?)
Yeah, but only if you ask her nicely....
Walter PlingeSat, 31 Mar 2001, 09:21 am
RE: I wouldn't audition for any of your plays!
My Samoan Attorney is right in these matters- he's beaten to the punch (the fiend!!), but I share the sentiments.
You are a male actor, yes. You are also a coward!
Show yourself- I know someone who for a moderate fee will represent you....
Eliot (yes, his real name; thought sometimes known as "Hypocrite" by Meddoes)
You are a male actor, yes. You are also a coward!
Show yourself- I know someone who for a moderate fee will represent you....
Eliot (yes, his real name; thought sometimes known as "Hypocrite" by Meddoes)
Walter PlingeSun, 1 Apr 2001, 01:12 am
RE: I wouldn't audition for any of your plays!
I know I am probably rushing to the defence of someone who doesn't need it but can I just say that I think David Meadows is one of Perth's most talented actors/directors. What he did with 'Summer of the Seventeenth Doll' for me, was to bring a ohmigodistudiedthisinhighschool play to life. If you had asked me what I thought of the Doll early last yearI would have groaned, but now I love it. Also, what he gave to the cast of Playlovers' Assassins last year were two memorable scenes that left everyone spellbound. Petty comments from an someone who obviously does not attend auditions due to the inevitability of their rejection are not necessary and I would ask MA to kindly leave the stage.... NEXT!
Grant MalcolmSun, 1 Apr 2001, 06:06 am
RE: I wouldn't swell Dave's head
All this support and generous praise from people he doesn't even know...
AND a role coming up in a pro' show in May....
sheesh people, let's not make Meadow's head explode!
;-)
Cheers
Grant
AND a role coming up in a pro' show in May....
sheesh people, let's not make Meadow's head explode!
;-)
Cheers
Grant
Walter PlingeWed, 4 Apr 2001, 10:15 am
RE: I wouldn't audition for any of your plays!
It appears that MA has done exactly what he set out to do...stir up a bit of a hornet's nest! He baited the line and boy did he make a killing! Instead of taking any of your own advice and put things behind you and move on, and to ignore petty minded comments, you all rushed to your keyboards and replied with an obvious rage or 'ill-feeling' directed towards MA. I'm sure you all have better things and healthier things to do than entertain some cyber-stirrer! You all say that MA doesn't know what he is talking about and that you all know the truth about David, if so...move on!
Walter PlingeWed, 4 Apr 2001, 11:49 am
RE: I wouldn't audition for any of your plays!
Not sure how you know what MA's motivation was louis, but my guess is there was more to it than having a bit of a stir. Character assassination is closer to the mark.
To have done nothing would have given credence to the bile MA spewed forth.
As for moving on, everyone but you had - there had been no posting for 3 days. Hopefully MA has crawled back under his rock (perhaps in some garden at WAAPA?) and his wallowing in his own under-achievement.
To have done nothing would have given credence to the bile MA spewed forth.
As for moving on, everyone but you had - there had been no posting for 3 days. Hopefully MA has crawled back under his rock (perhaps in some garden at WAAPA?) and his wallowing in his own under-achievement.
jassepWed, 4 Apr 2001, 11:53 am
RE: I wouldn't audition for any of your plays!
Louis,
I agree with you.
What I disagree with (if you'd like to examine the thrust of my contribution) is the usage of this forum for this kind of ambush.
What Grant has created here is wonderful but it's also being abused with alarming regularity...I hadn't put my $0.02 in before on this subject, I saw the opportunity to do so, and I shan't bother again, because, as you say:
"move on!" ;o)
I see participation on this site as a privilege, not a right - a place where no one should be subjected to abuse through the veil of anonymity...this site makes personal attack very easy - something people would have to think long and hard about if they tried it in any other media. How/why should this be any different?
Kindest Regards
Jason
I agree with you.
What I disagree with (if you'd like to examine the thrust of my contribution) is the usage of this forum for this kind of ambush.
What Grant has created here is wonderful but it's also being abused with alarming regularity...I hadn't put my $0.02 in before on this subject, I saw the opportunity to do so, and I shan't bother again, because, as you say:
"move on!" ;o)
I see participation on this site as a privilege, not a right - a place where no one should be subjected to abuse through the veil of anonymity...this site makes personal attack very easy - something people would have to think long and hard about if they tried it in any other media. How/why should this be any different?
Kindest Regards
Jason
Walter PlingeWed, 4 Apr 2001, 07:47 pm
RE: falling levels of enthusiasm
In response to your email on "Falling levels of enthusiasm", it seems pretty remarkable that that should worry you. I had one particular experience in auditioning for a part in a play and actually got knocked back because of a big name actor within the amateur theatre circuit. That experience actually lead to my "falling level of enthusiasm". Let me relate it to you.
I auditioned for a role in "Oleanna" and was knocked back because of a popular and no doubt talented actor named David Meadows. Fair enough. Maybe I wasn't right for the part. But did this David Meadows actually audition for the part, or did he get it because he was David Meadows?
Ordinarily, this would not be any cause for complaint. However you have made the decision to pull out of "Oleanna" no doubt leaving Blak Yak Theatre in the lurch so to speak. They're going to have some trouble finding another actor in a short space of time and I'm not going to waste my time auditioning for that part again.
I can relate another incident of an actor who had scored a lead part in a drama (which I will leave nameless at this point) despite the fact that he has no acting experience at all. This is the opposite extreme, and the first time director may have shot himself in the foot with this one. Maybe it's a friend his. Hmmm....
Stories like this seems to confirm the belief that there is a culture of "not what you know but who you know" within the amateur theatre circuit. I encountered something like this at the Garrick Theatre some years ago. For actors with a considerable amount talent and experience, but no real exposure within the industry this is daunting and off putting. Auditioning becomes a waste of time, no doubt contributing to that "falling level of enthusiasm."
I agree with you David. ADS is alive and well in Perth. However I would suggest that it is symptomatic to a disease thats endemic within the Perth Theatre scene itself. As for your predicament, I suggest you start rounding up some middle aged friends.
Yours etc.
Cary
I auditioned for a role in "Oleanna" and was knocked back because of a popular and no doubt talented actor named David Meadows. Fair enough. Maybe I wasn't right for the part. But did this David Meadows actually audition for the part, or did he get it because he was David Meadows?
Ordinarily, this would not be any cause for complaint. However you have made the decision to pull out of "Oleanna" no doubt leaving Blak Yak Theatre in the lurch so to speak. They're going to have some trouble finding another actor in a short space of time and I'm not going to waste my time auditioning for that part again.
I can relate another incident of an actor who had scored a lead part in a drama (which I will leave nameless at this point) despite the fact that he has no acting experience at all. This is the opposite extreme, and the first time director may have shot himself in the foot with this one. Maybe it's a friend his. Hmmm....
Stories like this seems to confirm the belief that there is a culture of "not what you know but who you know" within the amateur theatre circuit. I encountered something like this at the Garrick Theatre some years ago. For actors with a considerable amount talent and experience, but no real exposure within the industry this is daunting and off putting. Auditioning becomes a waste of time, no doubt contributing to that "falling level of enthusiasm."
I agree with you David. ADS is alive and well in Perth. However I would suggest that it is symptomatic to a disease thats endemic within the Perth Theatre scene itself. As for your predicament, I suggest you start rounding up some middle aged friends.
Yours etc.
Cary
Leah MaherThu, 5 Apr 2001, 08:09 am
RE: falling levels of enthusiasm
People who have a "reputation" in Perth ameteur theatre have usually aquired it either by brilliance or just being so damn nice to work with that a director will chose them over a better but perhaps more difficult actor.
David Meadows DID audition for Oleanna, and the certain other inexperienced male actor ALSO auditioned for his unnamed drama. At the time, I hear, extremely well.
So before you start taking swipes at what I'm sure is a very clique-y hobbie and suggesting people haven't got parts on their merits, perhaps you should ask yourself; maybe I'm just not any good?
If you answer his question with a resounding; Yes dammit, I AM good, then I suggest you contact Grant Malcolm and see if he wants to audition you again for Oleanna. Get off your high horse and take the time to re-audition. Maybe you'll get cast for once.
JoeMcThu, 5 Apr 2001, 08:55 am
RE: level of enthusiasm
I always love auditions - I look forward to not having to do them - what a drama, didn't someone once say "Don't raise the bridge - lower the river" or was it "Mr Booth (Lincoln fame) - should have shot the actor".
I shall return to the warm darkness.
Joe
I shall return to the warm darkness.
Joe
Michael BalmerThu, 5 Apr 2001, 09:29 am
RE: I wouldn't audition for any of your plays!
This site has been going for quite a while and I'm ashamed to say this is the first time I've actually accessed it. Sorry! Slack of me I know.
I've just been reading through the little drama started by MA. Good to see nothing's changed while I've been away for the last few years. Always plenty of entertainment in the local theatre community - not to mention the many plays that are on as well.
It's good to be back. I've missed you guys.
I've just been reading through the little drama started by MA. Good to see nothing's changed while I've been away for the last few years. Always plenty of entertainment in the local theatre community - not to mention the many plays that are on as well.
It's good to be back. I've missed you guys.
jassepThu, 5 Apr 2001, 10:43 am
RE: falling levels of enthusiasm
Right ON, Leah! Perhaps ego can blind one to opportunity...
in other words, see not that you were 'slighted' but the rare opportunity of another crack at playing the role.
Kindest Regards
Jason
Leah Maher wrote:
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...perhaps you should ask yourself; maybe I'm just not any good?
If you answer his question with a resounding; Yes dammit, I AM good, then I suggest you contact Grant Malcolm and see if he wants to audition you again for Oleanna. Get off your high horse and take the time to re-audition. Maybe you'll get cast for once.
in other words, see not that you were 'slighted' but the rare opportunity of another crack at playing the role.
Kindest Regards
Jason
Leah Maher wrote:
-------------------------------
...perhaps you should ask yourself; maybe I'm just not any good?
If you answer his question with a resounding; Yes dammit, I AM good, then I suggest you contact Grant Malcolm and see if he wants to audition you again for Oleanna. Get off your high horse and take the time to re-audition. Maybe you'll get cast for once.
Walter PlingeThu, 5 Apr 2001, 07:43 pm
RE: falling levels of enthusiasm
Thanks Leah for your email. You probably thought my email was written with bitterness. It wasn't, I was merely being sardonic, although to be frank I don't quite know which is worse. My response to sending the email was the fact that I was amused by two emails which I shall relate to you.
The first email from Amanda described how they were in desperate need of an actor to play John in "Oleanna". Apparently the original actor decided to bailed out, leaving them in the lurch. I seemed much amused by this, but not amused enough to respond to green room gossip. However when I saw David Meadows email on "falling levels of enthusiasm", I detected an unintentional irony that he couldn't see with 20 vision.
In reference to "Oleanna" there was a friend of mine at the same audition who was far better suited to the part then I was. What would he have done to in order to secure a part from that audition? Sweat his balls off with a one hour monologue, while David Meadows might just as well had walked in and say "Hi I'm David Meadows I'd like the part." He can call a bluff hand with his reputation while the rest of us strives hard to get nowhere. That "falling level of enthusiasm" is the result of would be actors not bothering in wasting their time. It was a comment, not a criticism. But as I said in my last email, "fair enough."
What I think is sad is that Mr Meadows went for part he probably shouldn't have gone for, then for a perfectly valid reason (saving his own ailing production) "dropped the bundle" leaving the others to pick up the pieces. What kind of message would that give to actors aspiring to professional careers in the theatre. In professional theatre where parts in theatre are negotiated by contract you can expect to be put on a blacklist for pulling a stunt like that. Not in amateur theatre. You just get a pat on the back. Its a question of standards I guess.
However, on a lighter note in keeping with the light and sanguine mood of this website, I would wish Grant Malcolm success in finding an actor to play "Oleanna." I also wish David Meadows the best of luck with his play as he may find it more difficult finding two actors, especially in this day and age. I remember Nigel Rideout the former head of WAAPA saying that there is no theatre in Perth. I suppose he meant no theatrical standard. Wilson McCaskill was even more succinct in stating that theatre is a dying art form, especially within the context of the electronic age. I don't know about you Leah, but I think I can see the writing on the wall.
Yours etc.
C. H.
The first email from Amanda described how they were in desperate need of an actor to play John in "Oleanna". Apparently the original actor decided to bailed out, leaving them in the lurch. I seemed much amused by this, but not amused enough to respond to green room gossip. However when I saw David Meadows email on "falling levels of enthusiasm", I detected an unintentional irony that he couldn't see with 20 vision.
In reference to "Oleanna" there was a friend of mine at the same audition who was far better suited to the part then I was. What would he have done to in order to secure a part from that audition? Sweat his balls off with a one hour monologue, while David Meadows might just as well had walked in and say "Hi I'm David Meadows I'd like the part." He can call a bluff hand with his reputation while the rest of us strives hard to get nowhere. That "falling level of enthusiasm" is the result of would be actors not bothering in wasting their time. It was a comment, not a criticism. But as I said in my last email, "fair enough."
What I think is sad is that Mr Meadows went for part he probably shouldn't have gone for, then for a perfectly valid reason (saving his own ailing production) "dropped the bundle" leaving the others to pick up the pieces. What kind of message would that give to actors aspiring to professional careers in the theatre. In professional theatre where parts in theatre are negotiated by contract you can expect to be put on a blacklist for pulling a stunt like that. Not in amateur theatre. You just get a pat on the back. Its a question of standards I guess.
However, on a lighter note in keeping with the light and sanguine mood of this website, I would wish Grant Malcolm success in finding an actor to play "Oleanna." I also wish David Meadows the best of luck with his play as he may find it more difficult finding two actors, especially in this day and age. I remember Nigel Rideout the former head of WAAPA saying that there is no theatre in Perth. I suppose he meant no theatrical standard. Wilson McCaskill was even more succinct in stating that theatre is a dying art form, especially within the context of the electronic age. I don't know about you Leah, but I think I can see the writing on the wall.
Yours etc.
C. H.
GillThu, 5 Apr 2001, 09:48 pm
RE: falling levels of enthusiasm
Hi Cary,
People pull out of amateur shows all the time (actors, directors, techies) so why single out David? (At least he bothered to let Grant know about it, unlike some people I have worked with). I have bitched in the past about people who pull out of shows and have questioned their commitment but what it comes down to is it happens (sometimes with good reason, sometimes not), they're replaced, and life goes on.
I don't understand why you don't see this as an opportunity for you and your friend to have another go.
I read elsewhere on this site that David had to withdraw from "Oleanna" because he got a professional gig. Wouldn't you choose performing plus a pay packet over just performing? I sure would.
Oh, and about your claim that directors cast their friends. You're right, that does happen but in my experience the friend in question IS usually the best person for the role. There may be other people at the audition who are equally talented but if the director does not know if they are reliable, committed etc it is safer to go with the devil they know and all that!
Get out, get known. Make friends!
Gill
PS: Pro actors break/get out of contracts all the time to move onto other work. We all need to do what is best for us.
People pull out of amateur shows all the time (actors, directors, techies) so why single out David? (At least he bothered to let Grant know about it, unlike some people I have worked with). I have bitched in the past about people who pull out of shows and have questioned their commitment but what it comes down to is it happens (sometimes with good reason, sometimes not), they're replaced, and life goes on.
I don't understand why you don't see this as an opportunity for you and your friend to have another go.
I read elsewhere on this site that David had to withdraw from "Oleanna" because he got a professional gig. Wouldn't you choose performing plus a pay packet over just performing? I sure would.
Oh, and about your claim that directors cast their friends. You're right, that does happen but in my experience the friend in question IS usually the best person for the role. There may be other people at the audition who are equally talented but if the director does not know if they are reliable, committed etc it is safer to go with the devil they know and all that!
Get out, get known. Make friends!
Gill
PS: Pro actors break/get out of contracts all the time to move onto other work. We all need to do what is best for us.
Grant MalcolmThu, 5 Apr 2001, 11:03 pm
RE: rising jubilation
Hi Cary
Perhaps the obvious conclusion to the question of my casting Meadows in Oleanna hasn't occured to you.
Perhaps he simply was the best person for the role?
I'm given to a little story telling myself - as one or two people are rather pained to notice.
I might tell the story of Meadows, fresh from WAAPA, auditioning for a lead role and being cast as a horse.
Which end? you ask.
That's another story.
Cheers
Grant
Perhaps the obvious conclusion to the question of my casting Meadows in Oleanna hasn't occured to you.
Perhaps he simply was the best person for the role?
I'm given to a little story telling myself - as one or two people are rather pained to notice.
I might tell the story of Meadows, fresh from WAAPA, auditioning for a lead role and being cast as a horse.
Which end? you ask.
That's another story.
Cheers
Grant
AngeliqueFri, 6 Apr 2001, 10:40 am
RE: falling levels of enthusiasm
I am finding there is a definite fall of enthusiasm even for paid work. A couple of years ago there seemed to be a committed, reliable bunch of people who were enthusiastic to get good TIE work. The last two years, it was been a different story. From what I can gather, there isn't much professional work around lately - so why is it so difficult? I do agree with the "devil you know" casting scenario. Taking a chance on someone new has often led to last minute pull-outs and other dramas. (This is not ALWAYS the case, mind you! I have also found a couple of "gems") Yes, perhaps we all have to do what is best for us - but there is something to be said about committment and seeing something through. Perhaps I'm getting old, but what happened to "the show must go on" ?
Walter PlingeFri, 6 Apr 2001, 11:18 am
Regrets
I'm not buying in on this debate - just acknowledging a personal regret.
I was quite looking forwared to seeing David Meadows and Amanda Chesterton batteling it out in Oleanna. I can't think of a better casting.
Idea: Why not postpone it until David is available. I'm sure another production could be generated to fill the slot in the meantime...
Jusy an idea.
I was quite looking forwared to seeing David Meadows and Amanda Chesterton batteling it out in Oleanna. I can't think of a better casting.
Idea: Why not postpone it until David is available. I'm sure another production could be generated to fill the slot in the meantime...
Jusy an idea.
Walter PlingeFri, 6 Apr 2001, 11:18 am
Regrets
I'm not buying in on this debate - just acknowledging a personal regret.
I was quite looking forwared to seeing David Meadows and Amanda Chesterton batteling it out in Oleanna. I can't think of a better casting.
Idea: Why not postpone it until David is available. I'm sure another production could be generated to fill the slot in the meantime...
Jusy an idea.
I was quite looking forwared to seeing David Meadows and Amanda Chesterton batteling it out in Oleanna. I can't think of a better casting.
Idea: Why not postpone it until David is available. I'm sure another production could be generated to fill the slot in the meantime...
Jusy an idea.
Leah MaherFri, 6 Apr 2001, 12:12 pm
RE: Regrets
Fianlly Malcolm, something we agree on! I too was actively looking forward to the show. Ah well, things have a way of working themselves out.
Walter PlingeFri, 6 Apr 2001, 04:31 pm
RE: falling levels of enthusiasm
Thanks for your encouraging email. It certainly beats the last one I received from Leah Maher. I never meant to make a personal attack on David Meadows character or professionalism. I just thought it was mildly amusing that he should mention this "falling level of enthusiasm" at around the same time that he dropped out of "Oleanna." It prompted me to think that maybe the reason why he dropped out of that play was because of a falling level of enthusiasm. I didn't target Mr Meadows specifically, although it did seem that he carelessly stumbled in front of my bullseye.
I have been acting in amateur and some professional plays for nearly eleven years so I have a rough idea of how this industry is going. One of the great virtues of theatre when I started was this constant supply of fresh blood and strong talent. This seems to have disappeared over the last few years almost as rapidly as the audience. That's a good point too. I can still remember a production of "Waiting for Godot" that I appeared in 1996. We had an audience of about 8 including a two year old toddler and the theatre cat. I expect the situation to be much worse now. With modern technology this can only be the finish of mainstream theatre. Even as I write I am sitting in front of a computer watching my own demise.
My solution is to try my luck in some other form of media, as I was trained in film production. For most people, that solution may not be quite that simple. As for "Oleanna", I would be the first to admit that I may have been miscast. My friend has a minor part in another play and therefore would be unavailable for that audition. However, I wish Grant Malcolm the very best of luck in finding an actor for "Oleanna" as it is a great play. As for Mr Meadows and his associate Ms Maher, if they took offence to my remarks, then maybe they can use their influence to blacklist me from amateur theatre. With this dying industry they can cut the numbers for less competition. Then finally when the end comes, that theatre cat can have a nice quiet peaceful place to sleep.
Yours
Cary
I have been acting in amateur and some professional plays for nearly eleven years so I have a rough idea of how this industry is going. One of the great virtues of theatre when I started was this constant supply of fresh blood and strong talent. This seems to have disappeared over the last few years almost as rapidly as the audience. That's a good point too. I can still remember a production of "Waiting for Godot" that I appeared in 1996. We had an audience of about 8 including a two year old toddler and the theatre cat. I expect the situation to be much worse now. With modern technology this can only be the finish of mainstream theatre. Even as I write I am sitting in front of a computer watching my own demise.
My solution is to try my luck in some other form of media, as I was trained in film production. For most people, that solution may not be quite that simple. As for "Oleanna", I would be the first to admit that I may have been miscast. My friend has a minor part in another play and therefore would be unavailable for that audition. However, I wish Grant Malcolm the very best of luck in finding an actor for "Oleanna" as it is a great play. As for Mr Meadows and his associate Ms Maher, if they took offence to my remarks, then maybe they can use their influence to blacklist me from amateur theatre. With this dying industry they can cut the numbers for less competition. Then finally when the end comes, that theatre cat can have a nice quiet peaceful place to sleep.
Yours
Cary
Leah MaherFri, 6 Apr 2001, 04:57 pm
RE: falling levels of enthusiasm
Cary Hudson wrote:
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As for Mr Meadows and his Associate Ms Maher, if they took offence to my remarks then maybe they can use their influence to blacklist me from ameteur theatre..........
OK first of all, I think David would be extremely amused to find me referred to as his "Associate" in any capacity.
Secondly, I would like to point that that the aforementioned Mr Meadows has wisely chosen to retain his dignity and stay out of this debate.
Thirdly why on earth would he be offended? You only accused him of having landed a part otherwise than on his merits, you only said that his reputation and possibly being friends with the director allowed him to waltz into the audition and say "I'm David Meadows" thereby automaticlly getting the part without having to prove he could do it well. The possibility that he may have walked into the audition and done so brilliantly that he blew the rest of the auditionees out of the water does not seem to have occured to you.
And fourthly, we don't blacklist people here, we just arrive at your house with mysterious boxes and tell you that if you open them, an ameteur theatre actor you've never met will die.......
Walter PlingeFri, 6 Apr 2001, 05:04 pm
Cary Hudson
Hi ya Cary!
I have been following the debate.
I produce profit share Co-op theatre; ie 'an elektra', 'A Radical Re-Interpratation: Chekhov's The Seagull' and most recently 'Dr Koppelius'. At present I am finalising my casting for RAVE HAMLET.
Please give me a call I might have something for you.
Best wishes
Malcolm
I have been following the debate.
I produce profit share Co-op theatre; ie 'an elektra', 'A Radical Re-Interpratation: Chekhov's The Seagull' and most recently 'Dr Koppelius'. At present I am finalising my casting for RAVE HAMLET.
Please give me a call I might have something for you.
Best wishes
Malcolm