willing to act for free
Mon, 23 Feb 2004, 10:47 amLel6 posts in thread
willing to act for free
Mon, 23 Feb 2004, 10:47 amhello
my name is Leah I am 13 years old and I am willing to act 4 free. I love acting more than anything and have a hav a alot of expeirience.
Pleaz reply if u r interested. I will work in adds, plays or yeah, pretty much anythink. I come from Brisbane
thanks!
my name is Leah I am 13 years old and I am willing to act 4 free. I love acting more than anything and have a hav a alot of expeirience.
Pleaz reply if u r interested. I will work in adds, plays or yeah, pretty much anythink. I come from Brisbane
thanks!
Re: dramatic exploits
Mon, 23 Feb 2004, 11:05 pmLance Jorgenson wrote:
>
> You know, I think if she had an equity card and an agent she
> wouldn't be in this forum begging for work. I am going to
> make an assumption in the girlz favour here and state that
> maybe she was just looking for any acting opportunity, which
> includes the wonderful world of "amateur" theatrics. Which we
> all know, well, those of us who are involved in it, that it
> really doesn't result in $$$ for actors. I am sure that once
> she realises how close she was to becoming a scab, she may
> reword her postings. Or perhaps look into any role playing
> work that is available.
> Your point is taken, but for now, just settle. She said she
> is 13 and most likely, won't be stealing food from your
> mouth. She does live in Brisbane, after all. Like most
> performers, she just wants to do her thing. Let's crush her
> with the grim financial realities of the business behind it
> all a little later, eh?
Thanks Lance,
If I was sounding militant, I didn't intend to be.
But I don't see that it does anybody any good to be sheltered from reality in this industry. I'm not in the least bit threatened that she's undercutting work from ME, but there are other 13 year olds nationwide who ARE trying to get legitimate work, and are disadvantaged by those willing to act for free.
Learning a good work ethic early is surely valuable advice that I am passing on.
Leah mentioned "work" and "ads"...now maybe it is semantics, but I would distinguish that pretty easily from amateur non-paid roles. When the subject heading is 'willing to act for free', that seems to be clearly different to just obtaining an amateur role.
Having an agent and an Equity membership unfortunately does not preclude people from taking whatever work they can find and undervaluing themselves and the industry. Also there are many people who will qualify to find such work yet will never utilise an agent or join the union.
My response was not a hard rebuke to Leah, who I am sure is well intentioned and just starting to find her feet. My thoughts are aimed at everybody else who reads this and finds themselves in a similar situation...and we all will, at one stage or another. The desire to work usually outstrips the desire to demand standard work conditions; but succumbing to those desires never helps you or anyone in the arts industry in the long run.
If I 'settled' and didn't comment, how would the lesson be taught to realise the 'scab labour' concept? If I don't suggest rewordings to postings, they will slip by and be accepted by default, whereas really they are not acceptable, and it's valuable to learn this regardless of how old you are.
As the request seemed to be about gaining experience in the industry, I thought my advice was appropriate, no?
Cheers,
Craig
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>
> You know, I think if she had an equity card and an agent she
> wouldn't be in this forum begging for work. I am going to
> make an assumption in the girlz favour here and state that
> maybe she was just looking for any acting opportunity, which
> includes the wonderful world of "amateur" theatrics. Which we
> all know, well, those of us who are involved in it, that it
> really doesn't result in $$$ for actors. I am sure that once
> she realises how close she was to becoming a scab, she may
> reword her postings. Or perhaps look into any role playing
> work that is available.
> Your point is taken, but for now, just settle. She said she
> is 13 and most likely, won't be stealing food from your
> mouth. She does live in Brisbane, after all. Like most
> performers, she just wants to do her thing. Let's crush her
> with the grim financial realities of the business behind it
> all a little later, eh?
Thanks Lance,
If I was sounding militant, I didn't intend to be.
But I don't see that it does anybody any good to be sheltered from reality in this industry. I'm not in the least bit threatened that she's undercutting work from ME, but there are other 13 year olds nationwide who ARE trying to get legitimate work, and are disadvantaged by those willing to act for free.
Learning a good work ethic early is surely valuable advice that I am passing on.
Leah mentioned "work" and "ads"...now maybe it is semantics, but I would distinguish that pretty easily from amateur non-paid roles. When the subject heading is 'willing to act for free', that seems to be clearly different to just obtaining an amateur role.
Having an agent and an Equity membership unfortunately does not preclude people from taking whatever work they can find and undervaluing themselves and the industry. Also there are many people who will qualify to find such work yet will never utilise an agent or join the union.
My response was not a hard rebuke to Leah, who I am sure is well intentioned and just starting to find her feet. My thoughts are aimed at everybody else who reads this and finds themselves in a similar situation...and we all will, at one stage or another. The desire to work usually outstrips the desire to demand standard work conditions; but succumbing to those desires never helps you or anyone in the arts industry in the long run.
If I 'settled' and didn't comment, how would the lesson be taught to realise the 'scab labour' concept? If I don't suggest rewordings to postings, they will slip by and be accepted by default, whereas really they are not acceptable, and it's valuable to learn this regardless of how old you are.
As the request seemed to be about gaining experience in the industry, I thought my advice was appropriate, no?
Cheers,
Craig
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