"Is anybody out there?"... Hi im looking for a role in acting, can you help? =0)
Sat, 22 Sept 2007, 06:33 pmAmanda Perkins9 posts in thread
"Is anybody out there?"... Hi im looking for a role in acting, can you help? =0)
Sat, 22 Sept 2007, 06:33 pmHi My Name is Amanda i am 17 years old, i am looking for anybody who has a role for me in acting.
Amanda PerkinsSat, 22 Sept 2007, 06:33 pm
Hi My Name is Amanda i am 17 years old, i am looking for anybody who has a role for me in acting.
NaSat, 22 Sept 2007, 07:21 pm
Yes people are out there.
Yes people are out there. Why don't you use the search function on this site and find the millions of other threads that query and answer this very question.
Since you are in Ballarat, I would suggest checking the BAPA course. I would also suggest looking in the companies section on this site, where you can see if you can find companies in your area who might have roles available. You can also check the auditions pages, and read the FAQ on finding an agent.
I strongly suggest you do the above, because no one is going to hand you work simply because you post on this site.
(I don't intend to sound harsh, but as usual, a young person has posted yet another thread looking for work, and yet again we have to answer it. Really, does no one think to do a search before posting?)
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Walter PlingeTue, 25 Dec 2007, 02:00 am
acting need a role
Hi i am 13 years old looking for a acting job. I love to act i did acting in my school and everyone said that i acted like a real actor please. I remember lines quickly and i really wanna act so if you have anything please let me know. i live in long island also
Walter PlingeTue, 25 Dec 2007, 01:25 pm
This is an Australian
This is an Australian website - how many often do you think Australians look for actors on Long Island? The answer is NEVER.
James McDonaldThu, 27 Dec 2007, 10:51 am
Na wrote: "I don't intend
Na wrote: "I don't intend to sound harsh, but as usual, a young person has posted yet another thread looking for work, and yet again we have to answer it. Really, does no one think to do a search before posting?"
The problem is an organisational one for the site. Set up a forum called "Auditions". It's as easy as that. But, chaos reigns on this site because suggestions offering simple solutions like ensuring notices have the relevent location on it TO MAKE IT MORE USER-FRIENDLY are attacked.
NaThu, 27 Dec 2007, 11:28 am
You're right - the problem
You're right - the problem is in how the site works. But I have no control over that, and we did begin a discussion mid-year on how to improve things, and make some suggestions to Grant.
The suggestion of using the relevant location hasn't been attacked - at least not by me, because I've repeatedly encouraged people to use the state selector.
But you can't force people to do things a certain way, and no matter how the site is set up, people will either find ways to do things differently, or simply ignore the methods.
Perhaps you should also check the stats on my recent poll of how many people use the search, and what they think of it. Most people don't use the search function. Which says more about user behaviour than about the uselessness of site functions.
And there is a 'forum' for auditions: the auditions page. The point is that new people don't bother looking at it.
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James McDonaldFri, 28 Dec 2007, 09:14 am
Na, I didn't know there was
Na,
I didn't know there was an auditions page because it is hidden away under "what's on". Now, a normal, intelligent person would assume that "what's on" would refer to productions for which there is a forum, which the same intelligent person would think would be in the "Billboard" forum. But, when you look at the Billboard forum it is a wild collection of different topics. Given the chaos on this site, it is no wonder that a child can't find anything on auditions.
The search function is not the solution: efficient organisation is.
I access this site [which I have done less and less recently] on the agglomorated listing of postings from all sources - "all recent posts". This is the most sensible strategy if I am not looking for anything in particular.
Even if I did want to find all the auditions, I should be able to find them easily: there would be a forum headed "Auditions" surely? The "all recent posts" heading says it: it should all be there. I shouldn't NEED to use the search function.
There is an endemic problem. Let's look at the auditions for the past couple of weeks [on the first couple of pages of "all recent posts"]. There were six auditions called. Only three of them were designated "Auditions" [source: hidden away under "what's on"!]. Two of the others were located under "Billboard Bulletins - Film and Video". The third was located under "Theatre Classifieds". There is clearly a problem with the site.
It's confusing and poorly organised for adults, let alone children. The site is, I repeat chaotic and inefficient, so don't get stuck into the kids who have stars in their eyes because their grade six teacher said they were great in the class play.
Another side of the problem is that some people posting audtions are clueless - not because they might not have found the hidden audition link - but because they don't understand the medium. Because they don't have it in their head that people from all over the country [or the world] might use this site - so they don't indicate the location of the audition in their notice heading. You say, "But you can't force people to do things a certain way, and no matter how the site is set up, people will either find ways to do things differently, or simply ignore the methods." However, if the organisation of the site is optimised, you minimise the anarchy.
Furthermore, if the writers of the notices really have their reader in mind they would not leave it to the user to work out in what city or region the production is located. Sensibly, this would be indicated in the heading.
The question is, can this site continue to serve theatre in Australian its current form? At present it is inefficient and chaotic because it lacks a firm hand and a sensible structure. I suspect that - for the site owner - it has become a monster; that the idealism that has sustained it from its early days is no longer enough.
I appreciate that this is a free site. But, the best free sites serving the various elements of the industry here or overseas are disciplined. They are controlled often by two or more moderators. The sites have clearly thought-out and specific subject areas and are, therefore, more useful to the user and the industry. Then there are the paid services available to support actors.
I suspect that - in order that "Theatre Australia" might make the contribution its author intends - there needs to be a re-think about the site's function. What is its principal function? What subsidiary functions support that central vision? What elements that have crept into the site need to be cut out? Maybe some sections have to be tightly controlled while letting free-wheeling discussion proceed elsewhere on the site? Etc., etc.....
The answers to these questions should dictate how the site is organised.
Resposes to my previous criticisms of posters who don't put in the location of their productions and auditions, etc., suggest that some people have been defensive rather than accepting the comments as the constructive criticism they are meant to be.
In my view, Theatre Australia will be marginalised without a firmer hand and some basic reorganisation around principles based upon efficient service to the industry. The fact that it is a voluntary service is no excuse for chaos!
NaFri, 28 Dec 2007, 04:20 pm
I really can't speak to all
I really can't speak to all of this. I'm just one of the constituents, like you. If you have complaints about the site is run, use the feedback link.
Secondly, and some people perhaps don't realise this: but if you register to the site, you can actually choose what to see on the site and what not. For instance, I turn off the 'auditions' module, which shows the latest auditions postings. I'm not an actor, so I don't care to see this particular thing. On the other hand, I do have the module for 'bookmarks' turned on, which provides me quick links to the pages I use the most.... The site is designed to be flexible, more than organisational.
'You say, "But you can't force people to do things a certain way, and no matter how the site is set up, people will either find ways to do things differently, or simply ignore the methods." However, if the organisation of the site is optimised, you minimise the anarchy.'
Actually I can very much refute this. I work for a website, and we created a very structured functionality (I was part of the creating team). Every day since launching the site, we receive regular emails from people who can't figure out how to use the site. Some people simply don't bother to learn, others simply don't bother using the Help button, and yet others will simply give up using the site after a few minutes because they can't work it out... Structure doesn't change the fact that different people use sites in different ways and for different purposes, and eventually someone comes along with a different perspective of how it should all work. All theories are relevant, but not all are practical to the overall purposes of the site.
You really CAN'T force people to use it a certain way, no matter how it's set up. If you could, my day job would be ten times easier.
Again, I can't really agree or disagree. There are many things I'd love to see on this site, and things I wish were better. But it's not in my hands, and the person who runs this site spends a lot of time making improvements.
"Another side of the problem is that some people posting audtions are clueless"
I suspect this is the source of most of the issues on this site. There are too many people who post cluelessly. See my blog on interesting stats!
... I should add that us regulars do our very best to try to improve things; leaving advice for people... If you're sick of how things are, why not add to the FAQ?
As for marginalised, you'll find this site ranks in the top 10 sites in Australia and is turning 10 next year - hardly going to die out any time soon.
Lastly, the nature of this site perhaps better reflects the nature of the industry. Chaotic, messy, and overflooded with interest.
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