Hep to you all
Mon, 28 June 2004, 12:17 pmNa11 posts in thread
Hep to you all
Mon, 28 June 2004, 12:17 pmYou know I've read all these posts before...wannabes write about how they want to get into the industry, the professionals write back about how it's not that easy, and try to give advice without getting too frustrated at the monotony and repetition of it.
I am interested in setting up a website, that combines all the best features of theatre informational sites out there...the problem with this forum is just that, this is only a forum. What if there were a site that had every bit of info about theatre? What if you wanted to know how to set up your own company, and didn't know how to do it, or wanted to find out what amperes are, or where to find a script? And most importantly, what if you wanted to find a job, or read about a company, or post your own thought, comment, question or publicity material?
And all on the one site. No more wondering where to find all this info.
The problem is, that this the only obvious site out there for theatre in Australia. And most of the posts here are for unpaid or amatuer work. No wonder so many wannabes post here. There's no other information out there to point them in the right direction. Most theatrical information is limited to those in the know.
And maybe, instead of telling people not to post here, there should be a large sign on the homepage saying "For more information about jobs in the theatre industry, check out the following sites/magazines/whatever."
I run a weekly newsletter to my friends in the industry, which has jobs, news, info. It's Melbourne based, but it is free and is sent via email.
And I say, anybody who wants to recieve this newsletter for FREE, please email me, and state that you want to recieve it (for legal reasons, due to new spam laws, I must have written permission to send you anything. Please. I get fined ONE MILLION if I don't have your permission)....
and in the meantime, if anybody is interested in my website idea, and have suggestions on what should be on it, or want to help set it up...please email me.
Na
rrseams@yahoo.com
I am interested in setting up a website, that combines all the best features of theatre informational sites out there...the problem with this forum is just that, this is only a forum. What if there were a site that had every bit of info about theatre? What if you wanted to know how to set up your own company, and didn't know how to do it, or wanted to find out what amperes are, or where to find a script? And most importantly, what if you wanted to find a job, or read about a company, or post your own thought, comment, question or publicity material?
And all on the one site. No more wondering where to find all this info.
The problem is, that this the only obvious site out there for theatre in Australia. And most of the posts here are for unpaid or amatuer work. No wonder so many wannabes post here. There's no other information out there to point them in the right direction. Most theatrical information is limited to those in the know.
And maybe, instead of telling people not to post here, there should be a large sign on the homepage saying "For more information about jobs in the theatre industry, check out the following sites/magazines/whatever."
I run a weekly newsletter to my friends in the industry, which has jobs, news, info. It's Melbourne based, but it is free and is sent via email.
And I say, anybody who wants to recieve this newsletter for FREE, please email me, and state that you want to recieve it (for legal reasons, due to new spam laws, I must have written permission to send you anything. Please. I get fined ONE MILLION if I don't have your permission)....
and in the meantime, if anybody is interested in my website idea, and have suggestions on what should be on it, or want to help set it up...please email me.
Na
rrseams@yahoo.com
Re: Help is on the way
Thu, 1 July 2004, 04:43 pmBoy, I think there has been a major lack of info on my part.
Again, I am not denigrating this site, or any others. As you say, the jobs are found by getting agents. But for those who are not actors (like me; I am a technician and have just started my professional career), and those who are actors and have not gotten an agent, there is not much information out there.
Am I also not suggesting that this site (or any others) are not useful. But having spent much of my time asking a zillion people for information on insurance, tax and/or admin areas, trying to collate information for other people, and trying to collaborate/find/talk/introduce myself to those in the industry, it is difficult.
If I need information I have to go find someone in the know...and yes, that is generally how it's done.
Maybe I am trying to say, that we need to change how it's done. I only know a handful of professional people, who have neither the time nor the inclination to give me advice, and I am willing to spend the time and effort on a site/magazine/service which can provide a multitude of answers - not just jobs.
I am sick of spending hours trying to browse libraries, books, sites and people's minds, for information that exists out there somewhere, but nobody can find.
This is not some sort of continuous argument about the usefullness of this site or any other, nor is it a denigration on the efforts made so far. It is simply my experience, and others around me, who have all had the same problems.
Yes, it is up to the agents, yes this site was established with the amateur community in mind. All I am saying is that most new and emerging artists these days have access to the internet, and since this is one of the few theatre sites, I wanted to make a suggestion or start a conversation, in one of the only places to do so online.
I have made this comment on all other Australian theatre sites, and often I am told that the information exists on that relevant site, and that the industry is not set up for something that I am suggesting.
But when I mention it to other new and emerging artists (technicians, actors, designers, directors, etc), they have all agreed that my idea is a good one, because they simply do not know where to look for the information required - not just jobs, but answers about lighting, sound, insurance, publicity, reviews, everything. There is no singular site for this, which is definitive in it's information - I have to check at least 10 sites and 5 magazines for all the questions to be answered. All I want to do is collate the information in one simple to find, easy to read place.
I am sure I will be told once again, that this site (and others) have this in mind, and are continuing on their way to do so. I see a niche in this market, and I just wanted to get some idea of how well recieved my idea would be.
Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. All I know is that I have many friends and colleagues who don't have agents, can't get agents (because they are technicians or designers, etc) and don't have the money or the time to find what they need.
Again, I am not denigrating this site, or any others. As you say, the jobs are found by getting agents. But for those who are not actors (like me; I am a technician and have just started my professional career), and those who are actors and have not gotten an agent, there is not much information out there.
Am I also not suggesting that this site (or any others) are not useful. But having spent much of my time asking a zillion people for information on insurance, tax and/or admin areas, trying to collate information for other people, and trying to collaborate/find/talk/introduce myself to those in the industry, it is difficult.
If I need information I have to go find someone in the know...and yes, that is generally how it's done.
Maybe I am trying to say, that we need to change how it's done. I only know a handful of professional people, who have neither the time nor the inclination to give me advice, and I am willing to spend the time and effort on a site/magazine/service which can provide a multitude of answers - not just jobs.
I am sick of spending hours trying to browse libraries, books, sites and people's minds, for information that exists out there somewhere, but nobody can find.
This is not some sort of continuous argument about the usefullness of this site or any other, nor is it a denigration on the efforts made so far. It is simply my experience, and others around me, who have all had the same problems.
Yes, it is up to the agents, yes this site was established with the amateur community in mind. All I am saying is that most new and emerging artists these days have access to the internet, and since this is one of the few theatre sites, I wanted to make a suggestion or start a conversation, in one of the only places to do so online.
I have made this comment on all other Australian theatre sites, and often I am told that the information exists on that relevant site, and that the industry is not set up for something that I am suggesting.
But when I mention it to other new and emerging artists (technicians, actors, designers, directors, etc), they have all agreed that my idea is a good one, because they simply do not know where to look for the information required - not just jobs, but answers about lighting, sound, insurance, publicity, reviews, everything. There is no singular site for this, which is definitive in it's information - I have to check at least 10 sites and 5 magazines for all the questions to be answered. All I want to do is collate the information in one simple to find, easy to read place.
I am sure I will be told once again, that this site (and others) have this in mind, and are continuing on their way to do so. I see a niche in this market, and I just wanted to get some idea of how well recieved my idea would be.
Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. All I know is that I have many friends and colleagues who don't have agents, can't get agents (because they are technicians or designers, etc) and don't have the money or the time to find what they need.
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