Finley Awards
Wed, 11 Feb 2004, 02:37 pmGreg Ross4 posts in thread
Finley Awards
Wed, 11 Feb 2004, 02:37 pmGiven the passionate response from visitors to this site, in postings about the Finley Awards, coupled with the undoubted dedication of everyone involved, as the ITA AGM is due on Sunday 22nd February, I think that urgent consideration should be given to immediately holding a poll re the Finley Awards.
I realise that a similar poll was held some time ago, however there are now some very relevant questions needing urgent answers. The response to such a poll would be of enormous assistance to the new committee, in correctly ascertaining the wishes of the members and clubs they serve.
The Poll Title could be: “The Finley Award System, Should It Be Changed?
My suggestions for questions would be as follows:
1. No, donÂ’t change anything
2. Yes, but not much, just tweak a couple of things
3. Yes, the system needs a complete overhaul
4. The Finley Awards are no longer relevant and should be replaced
5. Awards systems are irrelevant
Theatre may be all about passion, however Leah is quite right in seeking some calm. I believe this poll would give everyone the opportunity to express their desire, without descending to personal attack and, as I mentioned, although not perfect, the results could be interpreted by the incoming committee as a general indication of what, if any direction, the local theatre community would like the Finleys to go.
Apologies to Grant for trying to add to his workload, however I think such a poll would currently be of enormous benefit to our local theatre community.
Cheers
Greg Ross
I realise that a similar poll was held some time ago, however there are now some very relevant questions needing urgent answers. The response to such a poll would be of enormous assistance to the new committee, in correctly ascertaining the wishes of the members and clubs they serve.
The Poll Title could be: “The Finley Award System, Should It Be Changed?
My suggestions for questions would be as follows:
1. No, donÂ’t change anything
2. Yes, but not much, just tweak a couple of things
3. Yes, the system needs a complete overhaul
4. The Finley Awards are no longer relevant and should be replaced
5. Awards systems are irrelevant
Theatre may be all about passion, however Leah is quite right in seeking some calm. I believe this poll would give everyone the opportunity to express their desire, without descending to personal attack and, as I mentioned, although not perfect, the results could be interpreted by the incoming committee as a general indication of what, if any direction, the local theatre community would like the Finleys to go.
Apologies to Grant for trying to add to his workload, however I think such a poll would currently be of enormous benefit to our local theatre community.
Cheers
Greg Ross
Re: Poll-itics
Wed, 11 Feb 2004, 11:27 pmGreg Ross wrote:
>
> Given the passionate response from visitors to this site, in
> postings about the Finley Awards, coupled with the undoubted
> dedication of everyone involved, as the ITA AGM is due on
> Sunday 22nd February, I think that urgent consideration
> should be given to immediately holding a poll re the Finley
> Awards.
Hi Greg
At present, I've been the one responsible for sorting through poll suggestions and implementing them on the board (yes, I realise the current one is due for a change...it's coming!) when I get the time, not Grant...although he is responsible for the code and fixing any occasional glitches.
I think your suggestion has some merit, although I bring up these reservations before creating such a poll topic:
The whole Finleys argument is only relevant to the local WA clubs. I admit that the majority of posts come from there, but as the site is a national one, I have consciously steered away from including poll topics that do not include and make sense to the entire national readership.
Along the same lines, (as Dean pointed out) the topic isn't entirely understood by everyone in Perth either. How can you vote that a situation should stay as it is, or change, if you don't have a full grasp of the actual situation?
If a topic cannot be widely understood by merely reading the poll question, I would hesitate to include it.
There is actually a fair bit of information and debate, for those who care to read it, within the message boards themselves. All 5 of your suggested answers have already been expressed in considerable detail. Many contributors are already taking advantage of anonymity to put forward views, and that seems to me to be an equally effective way to indicate which 'camp' you reside in.
Of course, that very anonymity can be seen to discredit some views...but I guess that's a by-product of politics. I personally respect anyone who has an opinion they will publicly share **, but even the ghostwriters often have valid arguments.
My concern (from experience with past polls, and also noticing how we're getting posts more frequently from overseas) is that the results can never be particularly accurate, at least not to the degree I think your topic demands. Unless an accurate membership log-in is required for the polls, you can't filter out multiple voters. Neither can you stop people or donkeys worldwide voting for the hell of it, without having any real connection to what the results would proclaim.
The polls are fun, they often indicate trends and produce interesting results, but I fear their inaccuracy would make a mockery of what you so earnestly desire of them.
As much as many may be wishing this topic would go away, I think the best forum is to continue discussion on the boards. So long as someone deems it so, the topic remains relevant, and the many viewpoints being expressed here are forming a collective consciousness of what changes (if any) ought to be made.
Cheers,
The Poll-tergeist
** I may ridicule the content, but usually from a 'devil's advocate' standpoint...I'm always happy to be convinced otherwise and put back in my place should I deserve it. Along these lines, I especially recommend everyone get out Michael Moore's 'Bowling For Columbine' special edition DVD and check out his interviews.
>
> Given the passionate response from visitors to this site, in
> postings about the Finley Awards, coupled with the undoubted
> dedication of everyone involved, as the ITA AGM is due on
> Sunday 22nd February, I think that urgent consideration
> should be given to immediately holding a poll re the Finley
> Awards.
Hi Greg
At present, I've been the one responsible for sorting through poll suggestions and implementing them on the board (yes, I realise the current one is due for a change...it's coming!) when I get the time, not Grant...although he is responsible for the code and fixing any occasional glitches.
I think your suggestion has some merit, although I bring up these reservations before creating such a poll topic:
The whole Finleys argument is only relevant to the local WA clubs. I admit that the majority of posts come from there, but as the site is a national one, I have consciously steered away from including poll topics that do not include and make sense to the entire national readership.
Along the same lines, (as Dean pointed out) the topic isn't entirely understood by everyone in Perth either. How can you vote that a situation should stay as it is, or change, if you don't have a full grasp of the actual situation?
If a topic cannot be widely understood by merely reading the poll question, I would hesitate to include it.
There is actually a fair bit of information and debate, for those who care to read it, within the message boards themselves. All 5 of your suggested answers have already been expressed in considerable detail. Many contributors are already taking advantage of anonymity to put forward views, and that seems to me to be an equally effective way to indicate which 'camp' you reside in.
Of course, that very anonymity can be seen to discredit some views...but I guess that's a by-product of politics. I personally respect anyone who has an opinion they will publicly share **, but even the ghostwriters often have valid arguments.
My concern (from experience with past polls, and also noticing how we're getting posts more frequently from overseas) is that the results can never be particularly accurate, at least not to the degree I think your topic demands. Unless an accurate membership log-in is required for the polls, you can't filter out multiple voters. Neither can you stop people or donkeys worldwide voting for the hell of it, without having any real connection to what the results would proclaim.
The polls are fun, they often indicate trends and produce interesting results, but I fear their inaccuracy would make a mockery of what you so earnestly desire of them.
As much as many may be wishing this topic would go away, I think the best forum is to continue discussion on the boards. So long as someone deems it so, the topic remains relevant, and the many viewpoints being expressed here are forming a collective consciousness of what changes (if any) ought to be made.
Cheers,
The Poll-tergeist
** I may ridicule the content, but usually from a 'devil's advocate' standpoint...I'm always happy to be convinced otherwise and put back in my place should I deserve it. Along these lines, I especially recommend everyone get out Michael Moore's 'Bowling For Columbine' special edition DVD and check out his interviews.