How do i start?????
Mon, 2 June 2003, 08:13 pmSteph10 posts in thread
How do i start?????
Mon, 2 June 2003, 08:13 pmHi my name is steph and i want to start doing thetre stuff i realise that i waont have big roles but u have to start somewhere the problem being as im only 13 i doon tknow where to start or we to go to start ating ither courses or proformaces? if u know plez help me. oh yer im from wa.
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StephMon, 2 June 2003, 08:13 pm
Hi my name is steph and i want to start doing thetre stuff i realise that i waont have big roles but u have to start somewhere the problem being as im only 13 i doon tknow where to start or we to go to start ating ither courses or proformaces? if u know plez help me. oh yer im from wa.
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Walter PlingeTue, 3 June 2003, 01:10 am
Re: How do i start?????
Learn how to spell first.
LanceTue, 3 June 2003, 12:16 pm
Re: How do i start?????
HI Steph,
I have a serious - and hopefully helpful reply.
I have no idea where you are in Australia, but many Community theatre groups (musical Societies etc.) openly welcome young people. In my experience 13 years old is pretty close to been classed as Adult chorus in a large musical. While we are a large and well established company our last two productions (casts of 90 and 70) have had many 13-17 year olds in the adult chorus, and a few with major speaking/acting parts. The two leads in our last show were 16 y/o and 19 y/o (Prince & cinderella).
Your local companies may vary and you may have to start in the kids chorus, but its all experience and if you don't start small you'll never make it big.
Best of luck.
Lance
Blue Mountains NSW
I have a serious - and hopefully helpful reply.
I have no idea where you are in Australia, but many Community theatre groups (musical Societies etc.) openly welcome young people. In my experience 13 years old is pretty close to been classed as Adult chorus in a large musical. While we are a large and well established company our last two productions (casts of 90 and 70) have had many 13-17 year olds in the adult chorus, and a few with major speaking/acting parts. The two leads in our last show were 16 y/o and 19 y/o (Prince & cinderella).
Your local companies may vary and you may have to start in the kids chorus, but its all experience and if you don't start small you'll never make it big.
Best of luck.
Lance
Blue Mountains NSW
NormaTue, 3 June 2003, 12:52 pm
Re: How do i start?????
A case of the pot calling the kettle black?
Whoever you are hiding behind a pseudonym remember that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
Thou droning tickle-brained strumpet!
Whoever you are hiding behind a pseudonym remember that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
Thou droning tickle-brained strumpet!
Walter PlingeTue, 3 June 2003, 02:00 pm
Re: How do i start?????
Some theatres will alos put on some fantastic productions that feature younger performers.
I would also suggest the joining of a Youth Theatrical Group. They aren't usually too expensive from personal experience and they can be a really fun and educational experience. In some of the clubs I have been a member of I have learned improvisation skills, theatre sports, script writing, directing, body language and so forth.
The great thing is you don't actually realise you are learning these things until after which I believe is the best way to learn.
Jeff "Young at Heart" Watkins
I would also suggest the joining of a Youth Theatrical Group. They aren't usually too expensive from personal experience and they can be a really fun and educational experience. In some of the clubs I have been a member of I have learned improvisation skills, theatre sports, script writing, directing, body language and so forth.
The great thing is you don't actually realise you are learning these things until after which I believe is the best way to learn.
Jeff "Young at Heart" Watkins
AlisonWed, 4 June 2003, 03:46 pm
Re: How do i start?????
I don't know what the fuss is about theatre groups. More often than not they are boring and repetitive, and no one ever gets to do what they want to do. In my opinion, if a young person is not self motivated to learn things like performance skills off their own back, they'll never learn them. All theatre groups do is start off the notion that they must claw and fight one another to win in the acting proffession, instead of simply being the best they can be and win with talent and determination, and not cattiness. Young years are too special to be wasted trying to be an adult...
LanceWed, 4 June 2003, 04:18 pm
Re: How do i start?????
Wow! - sounds like you have had some bad experiences Ali, I don't have an awefully broad experience but the company I am with ain't nothing like that.
Everyone is treated equally regardless of how minor thier part is or what thier role is, and everyone is supportive of each regardless of role they get and regardless of thier age.
Lance
Everyone is treated equally regardless of how minor thier part is or what thier role is, and everyone is supportive of each regardless of role they get and regardless of thier age.
Lance
crgwllmsWed, 4 June 2003, 08:54 pm
Re: Ali cat ??
ali wrote:
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> I don't know what the fuss is about theatre groups. More
> often than not they are boring and repetitive, and no one
> ever gets to do what they want to do. In my opinion, if a
> young person is not self motivated to learn things like
> performance skills off their own back, they'll never learn
> them. All theatre groups do is start off the notion that they
> must claw and fight one another to win in the acting
> proffession, instead of simply being the best they can be and
> win with talent and determination, and not cattiness. Young
> years are too special to be wasted trying to be an adult...
Hmm...spoken in a genuine tone of cattiness: a shame about your unhappy experience, but perhaps it's true that you WILL find what you seek.
My basic problem with both of your notions (besides the spelling of "profession") is your multiple use of the word "win". It's actually not about winning...so no wonder you felt those years were wasted.
I was in a group called the Youth Theatre Company in my late highschool years (84-88); if nothing else I found it a fantastic social club...but it also GAVE me a lot of motivation, as well as skills and experience. As far as "doing what we want to do" we were lucky enough to be led through a method of devising most of our own work...which has probably been the single biggest factor for a lot of the professional work I get today. And so rather than 'try to be adult' we were able to create stuff that we felt was relevent TO US...which is all any artist should be doing.
These days, there are at least two groups in the Perth region that are doing similar work...the WA Youth Theatre Company (a different mob from the one I was in): contact Melanie at waytco@hotmail.com , or the Geckobytes group (contact David at barkinggecko.com.au ).
If you're in the Albany region, Southern Edge Arts is a great company to be involved in, and I'm sure there are other groups I'm not aware of.
Cheers,
Craig
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> I don't know what the fuss is about theatre groups. More
> often than not they are boring and repetitive, and no one
> ever gets to do what they want to do. In my opinion, if a
> young person is not self motivated to learn things like
> performance skills off their own back, they'll never learn
> them. All theatre groups do is start off the notion that they
> must claw and fight one another to win in the acting
> proffession, instead of simply being the best they can be and
> win with talent and determination, and not cattiness. Young
> years are too special to be wasted trying to be an adult...
Hmm...spoken in a genuine tone of cattiness: a shame about your unhappy experience, but perhaps it's true that you WILL find what you seek.
My basic problem with both of your notions (besides the spelling of "profession") is your multiple use of the word "win". It's actually not about winning...so no wonder you felt those years were wasted.
I was in a group called the Youth Theatre Company in my late highschool years (84-88); if nothing else I found it a fantastic social club...but it also GAVE me a lot of motivation, as well as skills and experience. As far as "doing what we want to do" we were lucky enough to be led through a method of devising most of our own work...which has probably been the single biggest factor for a lot of the professional work I get today. And so rather than 'try to be adult' we were able to create stuff that we felt was relevent TO US...which is all any artist should be doing.
These days, there are at least two groups in the Perth region that are doing similar work...the WA Youth Theatre Company (a different mob from the one I was in): contact Melanie at waytco@hotmail.com , or the Geckobytes group (contact David at barkinggecko.com.au ).
If you're in the Albany region, Southern Edge Arts is a great company to be involved in, and I'm sure there are other groups I'm not aware of.
Cheers,
Craig
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Walter PlingeThu, 5 June 2003, 08:26 am
Re: How do i start?????
Ouch Ali. Who were you with? I'll remember to advise others to avoid them. Youth theatre gropus, when run with motivation and encouragement are a wonderful experience. I remember that I was a nervous odl actor to begin with and it was the interactions in the youth group that really helped me out of my shell.
You mention the thought of "that they must claw and fight one another to win in the acting proffession" and sadly I hav had experience with that as well. Although I have found this in all facets of acting and even daily life. This is not to say it's a good thing, but it is there and there is really no way around it. So in one respect, you could say that this experience could help prepare you for what may be out there.
As for trying to be an adult, some would say that actors are adults trying to be childeren and this includes the cat fighting also. Childeren are usually MORE competitive than adults.
I've learned that to get forward in this world it is a healthy combination of competitiveness as well as doing the Best you can. Being the best you can does not get you the work all the time. Getting out there and fighting for yourself wil help.
It is sad to think that your experience of such Theatre Groups has been primarially competitive.
Beat 'em WITH your talent and passion.
Jeff "Big Stick" Watkins
You mention the thought of "that they must claw and fight one another to win in the acting proffession" and sadly I hav had experience with that as well. Although I have found this in all facets of acting and even daily life. This is not to say it's a good thing, but it is there and there is really no way around it. So in one respect, you could say that this experience could help prepare you for what may be out there.
As for trying to be an adult, some would say that actors are adults trying to be childeren and this includes the cat fighting also. Childeren are usually MORE competitive than adults.
I've learned that to get forward in this world it is a healthy combination of competitiveness as well as doing the Best you can. Being the best you can does not get you the work all the time. Getting out there and fighting for yourself wil help.
It is sad to think that your experience of such Theatre Groups has been primarially competitive.
Beat 'em WITH your talent and passion.
Jeff "Big Stick" Watkins
Walter PlingeFri, 6 June 2003, 12:18 pm
Re: Ali cat ??
Stirling Players also has a youth theatre group called "SPY". We accept anyone aged between 13-25, but most of our members are between 13-17.
The only cost is the club membership and we have a weekly training programme of workshops covering all different aspects of Theatre.
Check out some of our members in the next Stirling Show "The Children's Hour" commencing on Thursday 19th June (see what's on for details).
We recommence our SPY programme on Wed 23rd July after a break while putting on Children's Hour". It runs from 7-9. If you want further details please contact me, Christine Ellis SPY Co-ordinator on 9402 4675.
Cheers and good luck steph.
The only cost is the club membership and we have a weekly training programme of workshops covering all different aspects of Theatre.
Check out some of our members in the next Stirling Show "The Children's Hour" commencing on Thursday 19th June (see what's on for details).
We recommence our SPY programme on Wed 23rd July after a break while putting on Children's Hour". It runs from 7-9. If you want further details please contact me, Christine Ellis SPY Co-ordinator on 9402 4675.
Cheers and good luck steph.