AC/DC tickets
Mon, 18 Jan 2010, 11:38 pmMelz13 posts in thread
AC/DC tickets
Mon, 18 Jan 2010, 11:38 pmDoes anyone have any ACDC tickets they want to sell ? I'm after a few... email me taz@tazentertainment.com.au
MelzMon, 18 Jan 2010, 11:38 pm
Does anyone have any ACDC tickets they want to sell ? I'm after a few... email me taz@tazentertainment.com.au
Walter PlingeSat, 6 Feb 2010, 12:38 pm
ACDC tickets
I have 4 tickets and im looking for someone to sell them too.
Walter PlingeSat, 6 Feb 2010, 12:52 pm
Have you thought about
Have you thought about using the email address above?
Greg RossSat, 6 Feb 2010, 01:14 pm
Tickets
I'll buy them - if they're reasonable seats etc, call me on 0418 953 275,
Greg Ross
Minister for Good Times
Walter PlingeSat, 6 Feb 2010, 01:18 pm
Just a reminder...
Remember, Arun, if you charge more for the tickets than you bought them for then it's called scalping and that's illegal.
Please don't turn Mel and Greg into competing bidders in a dodgy auction.
Tulipa
MusicalMumSat, 6 Feb 2010, 04:36 pm
Actually, it is not "illegal" in WA....
Tulipa, I applaud the sentiment and agree with you whole heartedly about the concept of profiting from ticket resale. However you are wrong when you say it is "illegal". At least you are wrong in respect of Australia, with the exception of QLD which to date is the only State that has actually passed law to criminalise ticket resale. Briefly and simply:
Ticket resale is pretty a much always a breach of the terms and conditions of ticket sales for performances, because every seller will put that in their Ts & Cs. But they would have to sue civilly for breach of contract to enforce that. And that is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
Additionally some States permit cancellation of some kinds of tickets where it can be proven the have been resold/resold for profit. Again, not realistically enforceable in a private transaction. Gets used for those mass ticket resale auctions online on occasion.
All that amounts to the fact however that it is not "illegal" (ie. a criminal offence) to resell tickets for profit in Australia, unless you're in QLD.
If it were illegal, I can guarantee you Ebay Australia would not be permitting the thousands of ticket resale auctions to run. Personally I think they should ban them for ethical reasons, but I guess hell might freeze over first......
And so ends 'Law of ticket scalping 101' lecture. ;)
crgwllmsSun, 7 Feb 2010, 02:37 pm
If the New Price Is Right....come on down!
Surely it's governed by the law of supply and demand?
If the demand is there, and supply is limited, people who missed out and are desperate will be willing to pay a higher price.
The people who paid for a ticket they can't use will be desperate to sell to recover their money.
Somewhere in the middle will be the price they both agree upon.
Profit or loss will depend on the risk taken...ie how late into the bargain the tickets will expire and become worthless.
Unless the ticket is sold for EXACTLY the price that was paid for it, SOMEONE is going to profit! (Either the seller or the buyer!)
And even that doesn't account for the time factor...if the concert is imminent, and no other tickets are available, then those tickets will be worth more than when they were readily available at cost price.
...Unless no one wants those tickets at the marked-up price, in which case the seller risks losing all.
In other words, even if they ARE sold at exactly the price they were bought for, someone will be better off because the value will have increased or decreased with time.
And no one's forcing you to go through with the transaction. You decide if the price is right for you according to your need and desperation.
I don't see what's wrong with the ethics.
Let the buyer beware, or as Jeff Watkins would like to put it, 'caveat emptor'.
Cheers,
Craig
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MusicalMumSun, 7 Feb 2010, 06:31 pm
Ah, but we are not talking about 'true' supply &....
demand. The Ebay scalpers make a business out of it and an extremely profitable one at that. Take for example, concert tickets that any mother of toddlers is intimately familiar with - The Wiggles. :)
What happens is this. The Wiggles have a philosophy of keeping their tickets affordably priced so that lots of families can afford to attend. The most expensive tickets are around the $40 mark, with tickets being available for around $30.
But the scalpers go in and buy literally hundreds of tickets up, all over Australia, leaving a greatly reduced number of tickets available for genuine customers.
They then wait until the shows are sold out (happens fast of course when a relatively small percentage of buyers are buying most of the tickets). And then the auction frenzy starts. They auction them off 2 or 4 at a time. They prey on the desperate parents who missed out. Parents who might have otherwise been able to afford to take their child (who would have just loved to go; ever seen a toddler watching The Wiggles??!!) are totally pushed out because they cannot afford the inflated price of the scalped tickets. And many others pay ridiculous amounts of money so as not to disappoint their child, thus defeating entirely the philosophy of the concert being accessible to those of lower socio economic status.
In Perth, it's a big deal. They only do one concert a year here. And trust me, you don't want to be left explaining to a toddler that they can't see it (because the tickets are $150 instead of $30)....it ain't pretty.....
As the shows get closer, tickets go for up to 10 times the face value!!! But even the ones in the early auctions will often go for at least twice face value.
I find the practise unethical and I do think it should be banned.
And of course they don't just do it with The Wiggles. The scalpers make a living out of it. They are literally making hundreds of dollars on tickets for shows that they had no intention of ever seeing, often not even in their home State.
The vast majority of the tickets on Ebay are not being sold by genuine punters who for unforeseen circumstances suddenly can't use their tickets.
And the 'demand' is caused not by the popularity of the concert, but by the fact that these scalpers have bought up enormous blocks of tickets making it far more difficult to buy a ticket at what it was meant to be sold for.
And now I'll get off my soapbox. But perhaps that explains why I think the scalping business is so unethical.
MelzSun, 7 Feb 2010, 09:38 pm
Which AC/DC concert
Hi Arun,
Which AC/DC concert - Perth/Sydney - where and what date?
email me taz@tazentertainment.com.au
Also - if anyone is interested in 2 tickets for the Sydney concert a lady contacted me from Darwin, who now can't attend... she just want's to sell for what she bought for.
Melz :-)
crgwllmsWed, 10 Feb 2010, 06:21 pm
That's a good argument. I
That's a good argument.
I hadn't considered a case of bulk buying to drive the demand up artificially. Yes, that'd be unethical.
I don't know how you'd police it though, or the implications it has on genuine traders who simply want to recover some of their outlay if they find they can no longer attend the event?
Cheers,
Craig
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Walter PlingeSat, 20 Feb 2010, 07:19 pm
acdc
i have a seat ticket for ACDC on the 22nd of feb-monday
section 625-2
aisle 625
row 34 seat 51
selling for 80 dollars- still negotiable
Walter PlingeSat, 20 Feb 2010, 07:21 pm
ACDC
SORRY FORGOT TO MENTION ITS SYDNEY CONCERT
AND YOU CAN CONTACT ME THROUGH EMAIL IF INTERESTED
cantgetanysweeter@hotmail.com
Walter PlingeSun, 21 Feb 2010, 11:10 am
ACDC
PLEASE CALL ME REGARDING TICKETS 0428535544