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SCAM ALERT

Mon, 30 Apr 2007, 09:03 pm
David Green28 posts in thread
EVERYONE BEWARE!!!!!! AN EMAIL WAS SENT TO ME THAT IS A SCAM. BE CAREFULL AND PLEASE ALERT SITE MANAGER IF SOMEONE SENDS YOU THIS EMAIL: Hello , My name is Caleb Adewole,a national Online Scout manager with www.toospoiled.com -an highly growing website with the largest database of actors and models in the world.I have gone through your profile and I feel talented guys like you should be on our database.Toospoiled.com offer talents the best in terms of worldwide exposure at absolutely no cost at the point of enrollment.You can upload your photos freely,there is no retention fee.We welcome the gifted like you and I know it's going to be a wonderful experience.why don't you join us at www.toospoiled.com/default.cfm Click 'Members'You would need my Scout ID:CAAD4310 for validation purpose.If you are having problem filling your phone ,omit your country and area codes.You can edit your phone number after enrollment.My email is Caleb.Adewole@toospoiled.com I look forward to hear from you. Best of Luck. Caleb Adewole THIS SCAM COULD COST YOU MONEY AND IS NOT EVEN AUSTRALIAN. DO NOT REPLY OR GO INTO IT.

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David GreenMon, 30 Apr 2007, 09:03 pm
EVERYONE BEWARE!!!!!! AN EMAIL WAS SENT TO ME THAT IS A SCAM. BE CAREFULL AND PLEASE ALERT SITE MANAGER IF SOMEONE SENDS YOU THIS EMAIL: Hello , My name is Caleb Adewole,a national Online Scout manager with www.toospoiled.com -an highly growing website with the largest database of actors and models in the world.I have gone through your profile and I feel talented guys like you should be on our database.Toospoiled.com offer talents the best in terms of worldwide exposure at absolutely no cost at the point of enrollment.You can upload your photos freely,there is no retention fee.We welcome the gifted like you and I know it's going to be a wonderful experience.why don't you join us at www.toospoiled.com/default.cfm Click 'Members'You would need my Scout ID:CAAD4310 for validation purpose.If you are having problem filling your phone ,omit your country and area codes.You can edit your phone number after enrollment.My email is Caleb.Adewole@toospoiled.com I look forward to hear from you. Best of Luck. Caleb Adewole THIS SCAM COULD COST YOU MONEY AND IS NOT EVEN AUSTRALIAN. DO NOT REPLY OR GO INTO IT.
LabrugTue, 1 May 2007, 08:34 am

Thanks for the heads up

Just reading the posting, it sounds too scammy. Too Spoiled? Sounds like a joke site more so than a Talent Site, and how often do you have "Talent Scouts" send you e-mails? They don't. Just like a bank would never send you an email to "Confirm your details" or "Update your Security Access", you will never get an agent contact you out of the blue. You'd have to have done something pretty special for that to happen in reality.

Tip, anything that asks for personal details, money or Security Access codes should be considered Guilty before being proved innocent.

The industry of acting, singing, performing is full of many hopeful and occasionally "desperate" individuals that these sorts of Scams will work. Our task is to help others not fall for them.

So again, thank you David.

Absit invidia

Jeff Watkins
Perth based Actor/Performer
who can also sing and dance
Fight/Sword Choreographer
Virgin Director

Home Page

NaTue, 1 May 2007, 09:08 am

If you go to their website

If you go to their website it is quite clearly a suspect site, most likely preying on the young and ignorant with promises of fame and stardom, while promoting their eyes and personal information to a range of services including online dating. It's pretty much for every wannabe model who doesn't know enough to spend their money on a reputable agent instead of a dodgy website. It is also quite clearly US based, and would probably not be all that useful for us Aussies. Their 'About us' page is a joke, and doesn't even state anything about who the company is or what background they have. Finally, anyone who randomly sends you an email to join a site (and pay to join) is grabbing your email from somewhere. This is in fact spam, and against spam laws (don't quote me, American laws will differ from Aussie ones, plus the whole international realm of law is probably different from both). Figure out where they got your email address from; then work out whether or not you need to delete your email address from any mailing list/website/wherever. (Or sue someone if they got it from another party against your wishes and the party's own legal policies) My vote: AVOID UNLESS YOU WANT TO WASTE YOUR MONEY. The Prompt Copy Store www.store.thepromptcopy.com Sticky Apple Legs www.freewebs.com/stickyapplelegs Puppets in Melbourne www.freewebs.com/puppetsinmelbourne Treading the Boards www.treadingtheboards.thepromptcopy.com
LabrugTue, 1 May 2007, 09:13 am

Brave Na-art

You're brave Na, I didn't even op to have a sticky-peek on the off-chance it may have been a Viral site. You know, those sites that use Active Content to spike your machine with either Viral-ware or Spy-ware. Another wonderful gift from the world of Scammers and Hackers.

Absit invidia

Jeff Watkins
Perth based Actor/Performer
who can also sing and dance
Fight/Sword Choreographer
Virgin Director

Home Page

NaTue, 1 May 2007, 09:24 am

I wasn't planning on going

I wasn't planning on going directly to their site, I did a DNS lookup (you see who owns the site) but found nothing helpful there. So I took a chance and had a look. Very 'flash' looking site, but quite clearly dodgy and won't last a year. These sites pop up all the time, but the good ones hang around. And there's nothing worse than finding an 'About us' page that tells you nothing about the company that runs the site. That makes you wonder what they don't want to say. The Prompt Copy Store www.store.thepromptcopy.com Sticky Apple Legs www.freewebs.com/stickyapplelegs Puppets in Melbourne www.freewebs.com/puppetsinmelbourne Treading the Boards www.treadingtheboards.thepromptcopy.com
David GreenTue, 1 May 2007, 11:09 am

SCAM ALERT

I agree this was scam. But this was sent to my inbox on the ITA website from a member on it. Thought I would alert anyone who recieves anything in their mail on this site from these people. But other then that... Keep Smiling :) David Green DRAGON FILMS www.davidgreeneneteprises.com
NaTue, 1 May 2007, 11:19 am

Yes, my bet is that someone

Yes, my bet is that someone signs up for these sites (because it's free and easy), finds and collects the email addresses and then sends out stuff. While it's not technically getting email addresses from another party, and though they don't send it to a 'normal' email address, it is still spam. (This is a guess, because you don't mention whether or not the person who sent it is known by you) I despise sites that do that. Sticky Apple Legs www.freewebs.com/stickyapplelegs Puppets in Melbourne www.freewebs.com/puppetsinmelbourne
David GreenTue, 1 May 2007, 11:33 am

SCAM ALERT

No I did not know this person. All I know is that they have an account on this website but its not the person who is stated in the above email. It was some new guy to the industry. My guess is I was on line or they read a post of mine and sent me an email on these people's behalf. Why I have no idea but it would stand to reason to get someone who has not been burnt before from something like this. Let alone someone who has been in the industry for a while. You only need to read some of my posts to know how I feel about agencies...let alone out of state ones. Oh well...some never learn Keep Smiling :) David Green DRAGON FILMS www.davidgreeneneterprises.com
NaTue, 1 May 2007, 12:01 pm

Just what I thought. It is

Just what I thought. It is probably someone who signs up just to send these emails out. They're probably some dimbulb marketing person who finds all the highest ranking sites for a particular topic (in this case, the highest ranking/visited Aussie theatre site), and thinks if they get a link there or someone interested, they'll pass the message along. Viral marketing isn't just for your bulk mail box. It's also getting naive people to pass along a message of a great new site; most people read the blurb, but don't check it out before passing the info on. For all the NEWBIES out there looking for a leg up - this scam is to be avoided. You most certainly won't get any Aussie work, and any site that includes lewd model pics on the home page and a link to 'social dating', is NOT a site that will offer you legitimate paid theatre/film/TV/modelling work. EDIT: Just found this: http://www.netcheck.com/scamalert.htm It's very interesting - also the page on spamming. Sticky Apple Legs www.freewebs.com/stickyapplelegs Puppets in Melbourne www.freewebs.com/puppetsinmelbourne
NaTue, 1 May 2007, 12:22 pm

SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM ALERT!!!

Just do a google on their web name: http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=21896 They haven't done their marketing very well. That was in the first few links of the google search. This was found on the next search page: http://blog.superunit5000.com/2006/12/14/job-scam-toospoiledcom/ and: http://www.consumerfraudreporting.org/jobscams_TooSpoiled.php and: http://batcave911.blogspot.com/2007/01/toospoiledcom-model-actor-website-scam.html and: http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/204985-toospoiled-talentdis-etc-good-nothing-spammer.html Furthermore, the name 'toospoiled' is associated with a whole bunch of other websites (ie. www.toospoiledhunks.com).. suggesting they are creating a whole bunch of sites just to get you to use their services one way or the other, and flooding google with top ranking/best matched names for the phrase. (Do your own google and I'm sure you can find more posts about them being a scam) PLEASE PASS THE MESSAGE ON TO OTHER PEOPLE, SO THAT NO ONE SIGNS UP WITH THESE SCAMMERS. Sticky Apple Legs www.freewebs.com/stickyapplelegs Puppets in Melbourne www.freewebs.com/puppetsinmelbourne
LogosTue, 1 May 2007, 02:03 pm

Interesting

I had a look at the site and nosed around the blogs and a few others I found and it looks like a pyramid scam to me. You get employed and presumably pay your money and then you get to send e-mails out and sign up people and get a cut of the income. It sounds so unethical and of course in this country anything even slightly smelling of pyramid is absolutely unlawful. Avoid this one like the plague. Is that all there is? Well if that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing. www.tonymoore.id.au
Grant MalcolmTue, 1 May 2007, 11:06 pm

Scammers

I'm with everyone else on this one.

Yes, there have been instances of people registering on the site just so that they can spam members. It's a slow process because the site will only allow them to send a message every two minutes. But sadly at the sweatshop rates some of these spammers are employed at, time is not an issue.

The account responsible for posting these messages has been blocked.

Regards
Grant 

--
Director, actor and administrator of this website

LabrugWed, 2 May 2007, 08:37 am

Omnipotent

Thank god for the Site Admin ;-)

Absit invidia

Jeff Watkins
Perth based Actor/Performer
Fight/Sword Choreographer
Virgin Director

Home Page
Yahoo Blog Page

Walter PlingeWed, 2 May 2007, 12:32 pm

What? There are spammers on

What? There are spammers on the Internet? Wow. Thanks for the heads up. Phew. Crisis averted. Stay sharp, team. Give yourselves a pat on the back.
James McDonaldWed, 2 May 2007, 12:35 pm

Some lessons from the cliches

Congrats, everyone, on exposing this scam (scum rises to the top too!). Unfortunately as PT Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute". Those of us who have been on the internet for any significant length of time have seen it all. But it's the odd sucker - and a fool is easily parted with his/her money - who makes it worthwhile for these nasties on the net. If it's too good to be true, it's too good to be true... Move on, and don't even look sideways when you come across stuff like this. Jim
NaWed, 2 May 2007, 01:30 pm

The sad thing is that most

The sad thing is that most people don't do their homework before signing up to these sites and companies. Most people see the blurb, maybe ask around, but won't even think of checking for forum threads on other sites, or doing a background check on the company. That's the first thing I do, and it is so easy to inform yourself about who to avoid and who to trust. Sticky Apple Legs www.freewebs.com/stickyapplelegs Puppets in Melbourne www.freewebs.com/puppetsinmelbourne
LogosThu, 3 May 2007, 10:45 am

Well

I'm impressed and on Grant's personal login too. That was good hacking. Is that all there is? Well if that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing. www.tonymoore.id.au
LabrugThu, 3 May 2007, 10:48 am

Bogus Grant Posting

Removed.

Absit invidia

Jeff Watkins
Perth based Actor/Performer
Fight/Sword Choreographer
Virgin Director

Home Page
Yahoo Blog Page

Squish delishThu, 3 May 2007, 10:50 am

Yes, I thought so too! But

Yes, I thought so too!
NaThu, 3 May 2007, 11:01 am

Actually I think there's a

Actually I think there's a bug in the system; sometimes I go to the home page and I'm logged in as someone else. Once even as Grant! Sticky Apple Legs www.freewebs.com/stickyapplelegs Puppets in Melbourne www.freewebs.com/puppetsinmelbourne
LogosThu, 3 May 2007, 12:02 pm

Yeah me too

I found myself as Grant once. Hurriedly logged off and told him. Is that all there is? Well if that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing. www.tonymoore.id.au
administratorThu, 3 May 2007, 10:44 pm

Hey it happened to me too!

Very confusing. I hope I'm going to get someone who's skills are far better than my own to look at it shortly. me (whoever I am)
Mandurah Little TheatreSat, 5 May 2007, 10:55 am

Amway of talent

Hi, Well after reading all the posts, I was very curious and decided to have a look at the site. (I have really good virus protectors on my compter, the ones that you pay for) The site is definately a pyramid selling marketing strategy. Very clever actually. People get sucked into this sort of thing all the time. Although the more people you can suck into it the more money you can make. Sort of the 'Amway' of talent agencies but you are not really getting anything tangable out of it. It is a go between service and indirect spam service. You sign up which costs you money and then you spam others to sign up so that you can make money on who you sign up and every time someone that you have signed up signs someone up you get a percentage and so on. Typical pyramid selling. You can also become what they term as a 'Casting Manager' which means that you research what jobs are out there and spam that to prosective (wanting) people and if they decide that they would like to look at the job, you make money. If you like spaming people to be really annoying or alienating your friends...... This sort of site wont get you a job but you will be making money for someone else. Stick to the reputable networks to finding out about jobs. Do the legwork yourself. Don't fall for this crap. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. JennyFer
Mandurah Little TheatreSat, 5 May 2007, 12:06 pm

Spike your machine

Just a quick comment that some people don't know to do with protecting your computer. Go to your Tools menu and make sure that your 'Phishing Filter' is turned on. If it says 'Turn OFF Automatic Website checking' it is on. If it says 'Turn ON Automatic Website checking' then you will need to turn it on. If you think it is a suspect site, report it. Go to Tools, Phishing Filter, Report this Website. It doesn't hurt to reports sites. Even if they are OK at least they have been checked. Think of it as making Microsoft work for their money. JennyFer
Walter PlingeFri, 15 June 2007, 08:04 pm

Re:Scam alert

Hello folks, I was totally shocked when I saw your posting in a Google search alerting your cherished fellow members that my recent invitation that you actors should enroll into www.toospoiled.com may be a scam.That sound too cowardice and it was a reflex action borne out of lack of indepth research and enquiry into what Toospoiled.com represent.Our name is derived from our age-long attitude to spoil our talents since they do not pay to enroll with us.The fact that this invitation came from a non-australian does not lend credence to your claim that it was a scam.Your nation can not continue to be an island.The world is now a global village,talents who enrol with toospoiled are not under any obligation to disclose their credit card details.When their services are needed they may decide to pay if they choose to do so. Please let me state in clear terms that all my claims are veriviable,I have actors in the UK region who have enrolled through my invitation,some of their profile is displayed for public view in the links below: www.toospoiled.com/profile/default.cfm?cID=130979 www.toospoiled.com/profile/default.cfm?cID=131127 You may want to call Toospoiled.com at 1-512-879-2034 for the purpose of verivication.I believe the best you guys can do to my image is to retract this alert and apologise in the interest of natural and social justice. It might interest you to know that I am also a guest of UKScreen.com and their members have been enrolling through my invitation. Thanks. Caleb Adewole , Scout ID=CAAD4310 Scout Manager, Toospoiled.com
NaSat, 16 June 2007, 01:43 am

Hey Caleb, if you insist

Hey Caleb, if you insist that the company is legit, why not leave a personal email address where people can contact you properly? I doubt any of us are willing to waste money on an international call just so that we can prove/disprove any suspicions we might have. And I have to say that it was not out of cowardice or lack of research. We simply did a Google search and listed the results: it's not our fault if there have been a lot of forum postings about your company that do not agree with your marketing. We were trying to give some advice to many of the young and emerging artists out there who may not realise that the service is not Australian based, and therefore may not benefit them as much as an Australian-based site/company might. (Your home page shows shots of half-naked women on it; not something we generally promote to youngsters in this country) And lastly; you want us to do 'proper' research about who you are? Put some company profiles up on your About us page, add some actual press releases on your press page, include actual media information on your media page (instead of where you place ads). 'In the interest of national and social justice' we have a right to present information based on what we have found on other websites and your own site, in order to better infom our local artists. If you really are legit, then you will leave us more information about the company, instead of saying that 'other people have signed up' implying that it is legit. Having links to prettified (yes, I know I just made that up) profiles doesn't make me less suspicious; only some info on your company, that I could double check and triple check from second and third party sources (ie. yellow pages, a government business directory, etc.), would help. You are a 'scout manager' and it is clear from the website that anyone can become a scout manager if they fill out an application form. I'd be a little more enthused if we had contact with... I dunno... a CEO of the company? Or an actual founding member of the company? (A google search of Caleb Adewole from Toospoiled brings up one link; this site. So we can't even research who you are! And so I say all this in full knowledge that you may not be who you say you are...) Sticky Apple Legs www.freewebs.com/stickyapplelegs Puppets in Melbourne www.thepromptcopy.com/pip
David GreenSat, 16 June 2007, 12:24 pm

Been there done that!!!

Dear Caleb Unfortunately one of your people who sent me the above email was either very new to this site or took an extreme gamble and lost. I think every person on this site knows how I feel about agents, especially the one over in the eastern states who signed me up and NEVER got me work. And you want me to join an agency over in the US??? Now I always do research before I make any comments regarding other people. I went into your website and then did a google search. The results speak for themselves. If you feel you have been wronged I am happy to apologies. However, let’s look at the email you sent me: "I have gone through your profile and I feel talented guys like you should be on our database." Now although I have a large profile…you have no idea what my acting ability is like. I may have done over 20 performances within 12 months but you have no idea if I was any good in them. Quantity is not the same as quality and without having seen any of my work how do you know you can make money out of me (because that’s why ALL agents sign up actors). Also with over 10 million actors and models out there in the world, why would an overseas person pay anyone from Australia (who they have not met nor seen any of their work) to come over when they have thousands if not hundred of thousands of people available in their own country? If you believe that advertising on a site like this would get you more clients I’m afraid you are gravely mistaken. Especially since people like myself who have been scammed before will ensure every new person understands the steps required to get a legitimate agent. I’m sorry if you have felt wronged but I will not stand by and let people tell others they can have their dreams and then not deliver. But to everyone else out there… Keep Smiling :) David Green DRAGON FILMS www.davidgreenenterprises.com
NaSat, 16 June 2007, 01:31 pm

It is quite common practice

It is quite common practice to 'harvest' email addresses from other internet sites and then database them so that you can send out large numbers of invitations later on. I would guess that this is what they have done. (Actually less of a guess and more of an informed assumption) Sticky Apple Legs www.freewebs.com/stickyapplelegs Puppets in Melbourne www.thepromptcopy.com/pip
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